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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

Sircray Since: Apr, 2018
#33576: Mar 4th 2024 at 12:19:34 AM

and Iron Man and Black Widow are revealed to have been in a Home Porn Movie that was secretly recorded by Ultron before Natasha's death.

And the entire team just casually sat round watching it together on a big screen.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#33577: Mar 4th 2024 at 12:23:20 AM

That's bonding

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#33578: Mar 4th 2024 at 12:35:28 AM

Like, it's just wild how that goes nowhere at all.

Heck, even a robot duplicate of Venom had more impact on the plot than a released sex tape of Tony and Black Widow.

Mostly Hawkeye being a dick to Spider-Man.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Antiyonder (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#33579: Mar 4th 2024 at 1:47:36 AM

Before that horror show, he also gifted us with The Ultimates 3, where it's confirmed that Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver were engaged in Brother–Sister Incest, and only Captain America had a problem with it in-universe (and was treated as some out-of-touch old fogey for it), Pyro does a total 180 from his Adaptational Heroism by suddenly ditching the X-Men for the Brotherhood and attempting to (alongside Mastermind) rape Valkyrie on top of that, and Iron Man and Black Widow are revealed to have been in a Home Porn Movie that was secretly recorded by Ultron before Natasha's death.

Yeah I won't claim Marvel to be even close to be beyond critique in the 2010s or now even with some good stuff.

But with "gems" like this, Marville, Trouble, One More Day/Brand New Day and so on, I don't think people attributing Marvel's quality issues to diversity are as informed about the stuff from the 2000s or their claim of wanting quality isn't so sincere.

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#33580: Mar 6th 2024 at 4:18:14 AM

Spectacular Spider-Men was fun. Some wisecracks, lots of leaning on the fourth wall (Peter feels like he's been doing this for about 60 years), lots of fun interactions between Peter and Miles.

We've also got a new, bestial version of the Jackal, some "meanwhile" interludes that will probably pay off later, and a relatively long time window for the first issue - I think it covers a few months.

Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#33581: Mar 6th 2024 at 4:11:25 PM

Kinda weird how Carnage went on his own anime training arc and now that he's finally back in his home universe he refuses to fight Venom or Anti Venom without a handicap.

#IceBearForPresident
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#33582: Mar 7th 2024 at 12:20:57 PM

First three pages of ASM #45 dropped.

Hang on, is Aunt Anna being in Ravencroft a great idea?

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#33583: Mar 7th 2024 at 1:53:27 PM

[up] You just know the Fix Fic writers are gonna milk the panel where Peter and MJ casually undress around each other for all it's worth. Also says a lot about MJ's standing with Paul...he's her main in the chair, he's watching her do all this!

Edited by Zarius on Mar 7th 2024 at 1:54:50 AM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#33584: Mar 7th 2024 at 4:06:41 PM

Also says a lot about MJ's standing with Paul...he's her main in the chair, he's watching her do all this!

[up]Oh gods, why did you put that image in my head?! RRRGGH! Freaking Paul! Leave us alone!

chino514 (Apprentice)
#33585: Mar 7th 2024 at 7:09:02 PM

Maybe we should get a book full of empty paper and capture him in it!

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#33586: Mar 7th 2024 at 10:12:53 PM

[up][up] Heh, sorry 'bout that, I meant it in the most unflattering way possible for him, seeing as he's Watching his partner undresss in front of her ex

I've already seen social media meme this panel every which way...only a matter of time before the fan art...evil grin

Edited by Zarius on Mar 7th 2024 at 10:13:14 AM

immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#33587: Mar 8th 2024 at 12:33:46 PM

Anna being put in Ravencroft is so bizarre. Like, really, MJ couldn't figure out anywhere to put her aunt than the facility that's usually used to imprison fucking Carnage? They even draw attention to the absurdity of it by having Human Fly casually walk past and chat with her - the same Human Fly who is a ruthless murderer and bug monster that melts people with his acid breath to eat them.

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#33588: Mar 8th 2024 at 12:37:12 PM

Another recent black mark on MJ's resume, really. Reminds me of Lois Lane in the Jon debacle.

Edited by Blueace on Mar 8th 2024 at 5:40:29 PM

Wake me up at your own risk.
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#33589: Mar 9th 2024 at 12:07:58 PM

@Targetmaster - Why is Anna in Ravencoft?

Also, I found that excerpt quite amusing. It reminded me of that episode of Batman: The Animated Series where Scarecrow pauses in the middle of ranting insanely to speak with Harley Quinn in a very friendly and completely lucid manner.

I kind of like the idea of inmates being friendly towards each other, albeit with the implication that they are crazy in the sense of violent and a danger to the public, but not crazy in the sense of "unable to make moral choices or control their actions".

Edited by Hodor2 on Mar 9th 2024 at 12:12:16 PM

TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#33590: Mar 9th 2024 at 12:23:53 PM

[up] Anna Watson is currently suffering from dementia. As to why she's specifically in Ravencroft (the same place that's best known for holding    CARNAGE    when he isn't dead or going on yet another killing spree), I'm just chalking it up to the idea that Wells either forgot or just never realized that Ravencroft was a specialized facility to hold and treat specifically the criminally insane (and even more specifically, the superhuman criminally insane), like Arkham Asylum is in the Batman comics, not a more general mental hospital. Realistically, Ravencroft shouldn't have taken Anna in at all unless she was forced by court order to undergo treatment there, and in that case, MJ probably wouldn't have been allowed to personally drop her off on her own.

EDIT: OK, I just looked it up, and apparently, Anna recently went into a brief, violent frenzy due to Orchis tampering with the Krakoan medicine that she (and millions of other people) had been using. Still seems a bit overkill to put her in Ravencroft after that (especially after the sabotage was found out and removed), but now it at least makes a degree of sense. Probably would have been a better move to put her in a regular mental hospital after that, though, seeing as the staff likely wouldn't have much trouble subduing an old woman if something like it happened again, whereas putting her in the same facility that regularly holds cannibals and serial killers and cannibalistic serial killers is like trying to swat a mosquito with an assault rifle.

Edited by TrashJack on Mar 9th 2024 at 3:37:51 PM

"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#33591: Mar 9th 2024 at 12:34:21 PM

Better hope is just that, or else it does no favors to MJ after a recent bad run.

Wake me up at your own risk.
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#33593: Mar 9th 2024 at 12:48:58 PM

@Trash Jack - I was going to initially say that (even though the Wells run sounds generally terrible) that it seemed like the comic was humorously aware of the reputation of Ravencroft, since Anna's fellow patients/inmates are supervillains.

But also, that makes sense in light of the edit that she would be there. I was kind of figuring there was some plotline in which she had Demonic Possession or something of that nature, which would "justify" a stay in Ravencroft.

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#33594: Mar 9th 2024 at 1:08:57 PM

I wonder if she'll befriend any inmates.

The Protomen enhanced my life.
Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#33595: Mar 9th 2024 at 4:15:11 PM

Is MJ being the host that redeems Carnage going to be a thing now? Because I'm all for that.

#IceBearForPresident
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#33596: Mar 9th 2024 at 4:20:50 PM

It's a shame Gwen won't be having more adventures with Carnage-MJ cause she'll be stuck on 616 for the time-being.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#33597: Mar 9th 2024 at 4:32:14 PM

The Giant-Size issue also further implied that Earth-65 MJ has a crush on Gwen.

immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#33598: Mar 10th 2024 at 8:32:54 AM

[up]Gwen having Ho Yay with her MJ has been a thing since pretty much her first appearance.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#33599: Mar 10th 2024 at 6:07:20 PM

Maybe former Ravencroft Director and good friend of the Parkers and Ex-Partners, NORMAN OSBORN offered her free treatment!

And it's sad that's almost plausible in this hellish continuity.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Mar 10th 2024 at 6:07:35 AM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#33600: Mar 10th 2024 at 7:02:39 PM

Every time you hear it, it sounds more and more absurd. The sheer fact that things have turned out such that Norman is Peter's only real friend - and that Peter will be losing even him very soon when the soon-to-be struck Reset Button is hit - is... something else.


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