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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#33451: Feb 23rd 2024 at 7:44:20 AM

How is Normie Osborn doing these days? Is he still pals with Dylan?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#33452: Feb 23rd 2024 at 8:20:23 AM

Oh right Black Widow has her own symbiote now.

I see Flexo is there, and Anti-Venom switched sides. But I guess they dropped Lee Price?

[up] He's still pals with Dylan, such as it is. I think they even calmed Rascal after his Carnage-induced insanity? So he's back to normal too.

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immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#33453: Feb 23rd 2024 at 8:50:44 AM

I'm presuming this is the big finale of the Ewing Venom run, since it's what the run has been building up to. It did increasingly feel like we were getting to a stopping point.

As we near the end, my feelings on this run are mixed. I hate time travel stories so I might be a tad biased. I dislike the whole Timey-Wimey Ball plot, but I do love the other central idea of the run, namely of Eddie going on a crazy cosmic journey as King in Black contrasted with Dylan dealing with more mundane stuff as the new Venom/Codex. The two writers aspect was also a bad idea, making everything more convoluted and there being a vast gulf between the experimental, boundary-pushing Ewing issues and the frankly So Okay, It's Average issues from the other writers; it's like Ewing is the only writer of the various ones working on it that really cares that much and isn't just sleepwalking through the assignment, getting Dylan to the required places so that Ewing can keep doing his thing.

Looking back, while there's a lot to like about this run, it needed more time in the oven and it also needed to have only one writer.

Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#33454: Feb 23rd 2024 at 9:05:27 AM

I kinda wonder how much of this run was planned and how much has been changed.

A long while ago it looked like we were building to a Team Kings in Black vs Team Venom fight. But the Dark Web event apparently messed with the idea by reverting Eddie's character over the last 20 years for another Venom v Spiderman round.

And now it looks like the big climactic fight with Meridius is being changed to accommodate Carnage's story arc for another rematch with him.

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immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#33455: Feb 23rd 2024 at 9:42:04 AM

I absolutely think Ewing and Ram V's plans for the run got derailed, and I wouldn't be surprised if Ram leaving was partly prompted by that.

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he/him
#33456: Feb 23rd 2024 at 12:10:52 PM


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#33457: Feb 23rd 2024 at 12:46:54 PM

I feel like Ewing shouldn't have gotten this run and immortal thor at the same time.

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immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#33458: Feb 23rd 2024 at 2:03:16 PM

[up]Yeah, you can tell that Immortal Thor is something he really wanted to write and Venom is more something he either got handed or has lost his enthusiasm for.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#33459: Feb 23rd 2024 at 2:06:29 PM

Oh no just like the latter half of his Guardians run

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Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#33460: Feb 23rd 2024 at 11:55:30 PM

New interview with JMD to hype up April's "Shadow of the Green Goblin"

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#33461: Feb 24th 2024 at 12:00:42 AM

Norman: Marvel says it's my turn to be Spider-Man's toxic ex.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#33462: Feb 24th 2024 at 1:05:36 AM

Yeah I feel like this Venom run got really hampered by several factors including Ram V suddenly leaving. He was building up to something with his whole Carnage saga but that got sliced when he had to leave to being exclusive for DC, leaving other writers like Packnadel, Bunn, and now Gronbekk to pick up the slack on what he was building up.

Its likely that Carnage's sudden appearance in Venom issue 30 and the whole Necrosis crossover is them rushing the whole God Carnage storyline to a quick conclusion, especially since the Venom War announcement completely took even more of the remaining steam out of Necrosis. Which further proves the whole multiple writers thing was a bad idea because of how quickly things fell apart if the other writer suddenly leaves.

[up][up][up][up] Wasn't it stated that Ewing doesn't have much interest in Spider-Man? If true that probably transfers to the rest of the Spidey franchise including Venom and probably explains some things with the books direction.

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Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#33463: Feb 24th 2024 at 2:20:02 AM

I have really liked Paknadel's stuff, though. A writer to keep an eye on.

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#33464: Feb 25th 2024 at 2:56:16 AM

TIL Spider-Man is apparently prohibited from drinking beer by order of Marvel.

Edited by lalalei2001 on Feb 25th 2024 at 5:57:56 AM

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Dayraven1 Since: Aug, 2023
#33465: Feb 25th 2024 at 3:44:16 AM

SPIDEY: “Fine. Meths it is, then.”

Thesegougou from Earth-1218 (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
#33466: Feb 25th 2024 at 4:19:59 AM

[up][up]"Sure, I can't drink beer, but I'm a science major, I'll do my own special alcohol !"

Edited by Thesegougou on Feb 25th 2024 at 1:20:25 PM

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#33467: Feb 25th 2024 at 4:45:51 AM

But he can deal drug if he's in the black costume.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#33468: Feb 25th 2024 at 4:52:44 AM

Spider-Man deals drugs?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
daxterishere22 Since: Oct, 2023
#33469: Feb 25th 2024 at 5:05:53 AM

He drink drink alcohol during the symbiote Spider-Man mini

immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#33471: Feb 25th 2024 at 8:31:46 AM

Marvel's prohibitions on Spidey these days are so bizarre, especially when you consider they didn't exist for so long. Like, contrast all these rules making Peter the squarest motherfucker on the planet to the classic Todd Macfarlene Spidey comics where Peter and MJ have kinky BDSM sex on-panel.

TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#33472: Feb 25th 2024 at 10:13:51 AM

Peter also once got Unsuspectingly Soused when he unknowingly drank spiked punch at a party (Web of Spider-Man vol. 1, #38). He then ended up having to fight Hobgoblin like this, culminating in him tying himself to an electrical tower with webbing as he tried to swing on it, and only barely escaping before the villain rammed him head-on with his bladed glider (which, thankfully, shorted out the cybernetic controls to the Hobgoblin's glider, which caused him to be rocketed away screaming).

And yes, Spidey was wearing the black suit then, though in this case, it was the cloth replica that Felicia made, not the Venom symbiote. And when Peter returned to the party demanding to know who spiked the punch, it turned out to be his then-landlady's husband.

Edited by TrashJack on Feb 25th 2024 at 1:19:48 PM

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#33473: Feb 25th 2024 at 10:15:21 AM

Was it Kinglsey or one of his many pawns? Or Macendale?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#33474: Feb 25th 2024 at 10:17:03 AM

[up] It was Macendale, according to the Marvel wiki. In hindsight, I should have realized it was him at the "rocketed away screaming" part. Kingsley never would have been humiliated like that, especially not at the hands of a sloshed Spidey.

Edited by TrashJack on Feb 25th 2024 at 1:20:33 PM

"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#33475: Feb 25th 2024 at 10:21:55 AM

Kingsley DID kill him for devaluing the Hobgoblin brand with all his failures.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"

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