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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

  • Apart from the main Marvel Universe titles, Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man "What If?" stories, crossovers, guest appearances in other books, Alternate Universe tales and things like Marvel's manga adaptations are all on-topic here.
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Technically, Marvel's Infinity Comics (and their predecessors, Infinite Comics) are webcomics, not comic books, but it's fine to talk about their Spider-Man stories here.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#33351: Feb 20th 2024 at 1:03:00 AM

There's not really any joy to be has in this.

Like if this was instead Peter and Felicity engaging in nonstop kinky sex that would at least be entertaining.

But Peter barely had any time with her so there was nothing resembling any sort of fun.

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Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
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#33352: Feb 20th 2024 at 4:56:09 PM

Ok, I actually really like the new Ultimate Shocker.

He gets the drop on Peter twice, via sob stories and pretending to surrender. He's fun. And relatively competent.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#33353: Feb 20th 2024 at 5:10:40 PM

What? Competency from an Ultimate Shocker?? Is that allowed? Is that even legal??

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#33354: Feb 20th 2024 at 5:17:45 PM

Ultimate Shocker captured and almost killed him before.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#33355: Feb 20th 2024 at 5:19:45 PM

That came across as more Peter underestimating him too severely after the guy was played as a joke for all of his other appearances.

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immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#33356: Feb 20th 2024 at 5:26:28 PM

Nu-Ultimate Shocker being played as a Wake-Up Call Boss is a cool take. I also really love how Hickman emphasizes that Peter may be starting out older in this version, but he's still just starting out and thus doesn't really think like a superhero; most versions of Spider-Man would never fall for that kind of thing.

DeltaCube91 from Elm Street Since: Jan, 2024
#33357: Feb 20th 2024 at 6:00:09 PM

How are you all reading the comic early? Is it a mail subscription thing?

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#33358: Feb 20th 2024 at 6:43:52 PM

Real Ultimate Spider-Man should have died at Shocker's hands rather than the ridiculous method they did in the comics.

It was the best story they told with USM before Miles' arrival.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#33359: Feb 20th 2024 at 6:45:21 PM

Someone is just salty Green Goblin got the kill.[lol]

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#33360: Feb 20th 2024 at 6:59:18 PM

I'm actually more salty the Punisher gets thrown into it too and making Captain America look bad as well.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#33361: Feb 20th 2024 at 7:09:11 PM

Ultimate Captain America is kind of a racist shithead tho.

Honestly, I'm tired of "Captain America would be racist if he was here IRL" We should have more "Captain America would shit himself if he learned about inflation."

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#33362: Feb 20th 2024 at 7:09:57 PM

616 Steve Rogers confirmed coolest Rogers.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#33363: Feb 20th 2024 at 7:12:07 PM

The Ultimate universe was just not kind to people who weren't Spider-Man.

Speaking of, we never did learn who took Peter out of his grave.

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immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#33364: Feb 20th 2024 at 7:19:51 PM

[up][up][up]"Cap would be racist" is such an ice-cold, small-brain shit take. It's entirely based around what C. S. Lewis and Owen Barfield called "chronological snobbery"; presumption that everyone before our own time was stupid or even outright evil. The idea that attitudes like tolerance, empathy, egalitarianism, and so on somehow couldn't be professed by a guy from that time period is nonsense dressed up as edgy invocation of Deliberate Values Dissonance. It's like people think the Civil Rights Movement just sprang up out of thin air.

Hilariously, thanks to the all too often terrible writing of the OG-Ultimates, one of the things Cap was depicted as being "old-fashioned" about was objecting to incest.

Edited by immortaleditor on Feb 20th 2024 at 7:20:32 AM

TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#33365: Feb 20th 2024 at 7:22:40 PM

[up][up] If it wasn't for the fact that Ultimate Peter woke up inside of a laboratory after his resurrection rather than inside his grave, I would have guessed that he just dug himself out of there, like 616-Peter did in Kraven's Last Hunt. Unlike the Bride, he has the super-strength that the Mythbusters said would be needed to both escape the coffin and force himself out directly through the 6 feet of dirt that would then rapidly flood inside.

I suppose it could still be possible that he did it, but went into a sort of dissociative fugue state that started when he woke up inside his own coffin and ended when he got himself into a perfectly safe lab to rest, such that he doesn't remember any part of his daring, post-mortem escape, but I think that's starting to stretch plausibility there.

Edited by TrashJack on Feb 20th 2024 at 10:23:42 AM

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#33366: Feb 20th 2024 at 7:22:54 PM

[up][up] LOOOOEEEEEEEEB

[down] BENDIIIIIIIIIIIIIS

Edited by Bocaj on Feb 20th 2024 at 7:25:49 AM

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#33367: Feb 20th 2024 at 7:23:24 PM

[up][up][up]That's why I want to see Captain America react more to inflation. It feels like a much better thing to write about.

[up][up] Right? I feel like it was supposed to be a mystery then Bendis got bored of it/forgot he set that up.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Feb 20th 2024 at 11:24:10 PM

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#33368: Feb 20th 2024 at 7:25:27 PM

Cap: "Back in my day, a nickel would buy you a newspaper with change left over for the bus. You could go see a nice movie for a nickel. I went to go see the new Simon Williams picture the other day and it cost fifteen dollars. What the hell happened to the economy?"

Spider-Man: "You have fifteen dollars?"

Edited by Bocaj on Feb 20th 2024 at 7:26:32 AM

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#33369: Feb 20th 2024 at 7:26:41 PM

Captain America: Don't even get me started on New York living prices.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#33370: Feb 20th 2024 at 7:29:39 PM

I thought Peter waking up in a lab was supposed to be him waking up in the morgue as a Mythology Gag to Norman doing that in 616 in the flashback retconning him alive for the Clone Saga.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#33371: Feb 20th 2024 at 7:32:21 PM

Yeah, we know who moved Norman's body to the morgue, Harry. Plus Norman woke up before the funeral.

But who moved Peter's corpse? It had to be after the funeral.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#33372: Feb 20th 2024 at 7:32:50 PM

Funniest answers only.

My guess is the Ultimate Hypno Hustler

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DeltaCube91 from Elm Street Since: Jan, 2024
#33373: Feb 20th 2024 at 7:33:56 PM

Ultimate D-Man. Hypno hustler would have evil intentions in mind, but D-Man is a pure soul.

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
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#33374: Feb 20th 2024 at 11:53:25 PM

~Delta Cube 91

How are you all reading the comic early? Is it a mail subscription thing?

The online/digital version gets officially released to Kindle at midnight, local time - so if you're in the UK, Australia etc., it can be significantly before the USA gets it.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#33375: Feb 21st 2024 at 12:14:08 AM
Thumped: This post was thumped by the Stick of Off-Topic Thumping. Stay on topic, please.

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