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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#33151: Feb 4th 2024 at 12:36:36 PM

Another possible solution to multiversal numbering glitches is that different multiverse-monitoring organizations use different numbering systems. The one used in the Handbooks and by most of the fandom, with the main universe as Reality #616, is the one used by the Captain Britain Corps. So maybe different numbers are used by the Spider Society, Watchers, TVA, etc?

immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#33152: Feb 4th 2024 at 1:13:20 PM

[up]That's a good fix and that's now my head canon.

chino514 (Apprentice)
#33153: Feb 4th 2024 at 2:10:15 PM

if the MCU sees themselves as 616, does that mean the comic universe to them is 199999?

immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#33154: Feb 4th 2024 at 2:16:07 PM

It would be funny if every universe designates themselves as 616 and fight over the number.

Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#33155: Feb 4th 2024 at 3:21:49 PM

It being separate multiverses is the only way America Chavez as a character makes sense.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#33156: Feb 5th 2024 at 11:41:01 AM

Mary Jane is Jackpot now.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/jackpot2024001_cover.jpg

Edited by FOFD on Feb 5th 2024 at 2:41:12 PM

HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#33157: Feb 5th 2024 at 12:01:09 PM

I think if you look at all the different Marvel multiverse stories across different mediums it has to be different multiverses, just too many things that don't work together. Granted that becomes pretty inevitable when you adapt stories including multiverse stuff.

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#33158: Feb 5th 2024 at 2:15:30 PM

It being the same multiverse worked for the longest time. It's just that nowadays they all want to do multiverse stories, and they all want their interpretation of the multiverse to be the correct one, and worst of all they all want to be 616.

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immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#33159: Feb 5th 2024 at 2:22:59 PM

[up]Yeah that sums it up. The weird boom of multiverse stories that the MCU becoming obsessed with it started has caused quite a lot of problems for Marvel's previously surprisingly solid lore for their multiverse.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#33160: Feb 5th 2024 at 2:30:06 PM

Honestly you could add some tentacles there and I'd buy Jackpot as another female Doc Ock. [lol]

Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#33161: Feb 5th 2024 at 3:45:28 PM

I agree that multiverse stories stop working when you adapt them and everyone acts like it's the first time you're doing it.

The other issue, of course, is when they blow up random universes in multiverse stories which have to be ignored by everything else. I don't actually think Tom Holland died in Secret Wars.

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#33162: Feb 5th 2024 at 3:49:51 PM

It’s fine

Franklin put it back together

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Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#33163: Feb 7th 2024 at 6:40:27 AM

New Dan Slott interview, talks Superior and Bailey.

Even now, Slott doesn't really make it clear what kind of book Superior is aiming to be, other than saying he changes the status quo at the end of virtually every issue.

Edited by Zarius on Feb 7th 2024 at 6:40:45 AM

Dayraven1 Since: Aug, 2023
#33164: Feb 7th 2024 at 7:07:07 AM

“Granted that becomes pretty inevitable when you adapt stories including multiverse stuff.”

Yeah, the propositions ‘everything is part of the multiverse’ and ‘these are the rules about how the multiverse works’ put together will produce obvious ways to contradict them.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#33165: Feb 7th 2024 at 7:10:54 AM

It doesn't help that every story has to do the big "explaining what the multiverse is" scene all with the imagery of the branching tree

Just condense it to a 10 second explanation of "Every choice you made or haven't made is its own universe".

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#33166: Feb 7th 2024 at 8:43:54 AM

Though it seems that unlike Feige, Lord and Miller do genuinely seem to want to play by the traditional Marvel Multiverse rules, even if in practice it's not entirely something that makes perfect sense continuity-wise.

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raykoda16 Volunteer Vexilologist from Between here and there Since: Apr, 2019
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#33167: Feb 7th 2024 at 8:50:13 AM

It's also a weird marker of how the MCU might not really understand what they are adapting that every number they use is three digits (616, 838, 314 etc). Do the writers think that's the important bit?

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Freshwater Since: Apr, 2023
#33168: Feb 7th 2024 at 9:20:19 AM

The Jackpot costume isn't terrible. The colors are nice and well blended. The slot machine wrist idea is cool too.

But there are a few things that seem weird to me. Probably the biggest is those glasses. They are way to big on the top so they don't look stylish while simultaneously being way to small on the bottom so they don't cover her face. It looks like M.J. is just wearing a tacky pair of shades and should be immediately recognized by everyone. They should have been her a cooler visor or maybe a full motor cycle helmet if they wanted to cover the top of her face.

The second thing is that, besides the slot machine on her wrist, there is no indication that she has a gambler motif. They should have given her some playing card motifs on her arms or maybe some roulette wheels patterns.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#33169: Feb 8th 2024 at 3:03:26 AM

David Michelinie returns for ‘Venom: Separation Anxiety’ in May 2024

This May, the lethal protector meets his match in Venom co-creator David Michelinie and artist Gerardo Sandoval’s new Venom retro series.

Marvel Comics has revealed a new five-issue miniseries called Venom: Separation Anxiety! Written by David Michelinie with art by Gerardo Sandoval, featuring a foe with the power to alter reality: Purple Man. The first issue drops into comic shops on May 15th. Michelinie is coming off his last Venom series, Venom Lethal Protector II which ended last summer.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#33170: Feb 8th 2024 at 7:29:36 AM

Wasn’t that a video game based on a storyline?

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Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#33171: Feb 8th 2024 at 11:37:41 PM

Ultimate Bullseye confirmed for future issues of USM

Edited by Zarius on Feb 8th 2024 at 11:44:19 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#33172: Feb 9th 2024 at 6:48:51 AM

Huh.

Bullseye's an interesting choice, considering he's more of a Daredevil Rogue (though Spidey has fought him, but he's fought damn near everyone).

But he seems to have a suit in this universe. Maybe it buffs him a bit.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#33173: Feb 9th 2024 at 6:50:29 AM

If Daredevil can steal the Kingpin for his arch-enemy position, then Spider-Man is entitled to borrow Bullseye for a couple of dates.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#33174: Feb 9th 2024 at 6:53:23 AM

Yeah that sounds fair to me

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immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#33175: Feb 9th 2024 at 8:08:44 AM

Plus, there's no Daredevil in this universe for guys like Kingpin and Bullseye to fight. Matt never became a superhero and is just some priest. Spidey and Daredevil have a lot of overlap in rogues anyways, so it's makes sense that in a world without Daredevil, Spidey inherits his enemies.

Also that's a really cool Bullseye design.


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