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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#33126: Jan 31st 2024 at 9:42:29 AM

[up]Go further and Bailey keeps aging past Peter and eventually we get an issue where Bailey is 98 years old and surrounded by his family on his death bed while Peter is still acting like a high schooler.

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#33128: Jan 31st 2024 at 7:16:45 PM

If you are Peter or a clone, be ready to throw hands with the others at a moment's notice, I guess.

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Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#33129: Feb 1st 2024 at 11:27:03 AM

We don't get enough of Peter just hanging with his clones.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#33130: Feb 1st 2024 at 11:47:01 AM

They keep being evil or dead or jerks

So what I’m saying is let’s bring Kaine back and make him Peter’s roommate

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reppuzan Since: Dec, 2014
#33131: Feb 1st 2024 at 12:29:15 PM

I'm still glad that Saladin Ahmed's run on Miles ended with just Shift left as Miles' endearing Humanoid Abomination little brother (who unfortunately has to hide out beneath Brooklyn Visions).

DeltaCube91 from Elm Street Since: Jan, 2024
#33132: Feb 1st 2024 at 1:47:15 PM

[up] 5x Why is Peter stuttering when talking to Spidercide? Peter, my man, that’s just a less agile version of you!

reppuzan Since: Dec, 2014
#33133: Feb 1st 2024 at 1:57:52 PM

[up]

Spider-Man has not had his powers this entire run due to Jackal's manipulations. Going against Spidercide without powers is suicide.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#33134: Feb 1st 2024 at 2:10:45 PM

Did Spidercide lose his shape shifting then?

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reppuzan Since: Dec, 2014
#33135: Feb 1st 2024 at 4:15:35 PM

I don't think that's every brought up, since he'd also been kept prisoner by the Jackal.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#33136: Feb 1st 2024 at 6:19:48 PM

The Spider-Ben series from a year or two really played with Spidercide’s shapeshifting. But that was years ago. I didn’t even know Spidercide was still alive

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#33137: Feb 1st 2024 at 6:24:53 PM

I have to admit, Clone Saga 2 is a major blind spot for me.

Who the heck is Spidercide?

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immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#33138: Feb 1st 2024 at 7:24:44 PM

[up]An evil shapeshifting clone of Peter that was bred by Jackal to both think he's the real Peter and to be murderously insane. He kinda dropped off the face of the Earth around the end of the Clone Saga and never got mentioned again for years. It's only very recently that he's been starting to make appearances again for some reason.

reppuzan Since: Dec, 2014
#33139: Feb 1st 2024 at 8:03:30 PM

He's a product of the 90s edgelord fad.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#33140: Feb 1st 2024 at 8:04:12 PM

I just now realize his name is Genocide with Spider in place of Geno.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#33141: Feb 1st 2024 at 8:22:20 PM

Or homicide. But same basic idea.

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#33142: Feb 1st 2024 at 8:26:57 PM

Or insecticide.

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Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#33143: Feb 1st 2024 at 8:27:57 PM

Spidercide is from the Clone Saga, natch. IIRC he was pretending to be Spiderman before Ben Reilly was.

But like Kaine he was a defective clone, so he melted. Then he came back and changed it that he didn't actually melt, but his defective genomes did mean he could shapeshift.

He was a straight up villain for a long time, but recently he's more of a tsundere to his brothers.

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#33144: Feb 1st 2024 at 8:29:26 PM

Since he's a clone of Spidey maybe 'fratricide' was what they were thinking of.

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lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#33145: Feb 1st 2024 at 8:32:48 PM

He also appeared in Across the Spider-Verse. Interestingly, in that he's listed by the popup as being from Earth-616. Not 616-A or 616-B or anything like that, the actual Earth-616 comic universe.

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immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#33146: Feb 2nd 2024 at 8:13:54 AM

[up]The Spider-Verse movies have a tendency to list off characters as coming from whichever universe corresponded to their original appearance even if they're clearly not meant to be the same version of said characters; Peter B. is listed as being 616 Peter even though they're lives have obviously diverged, and Gwen is listed as coming from Earth 65 even though her story differs radically at points from the Spider-Gwen comic.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#33147: Feb 2nd 2024 at 8:17:25 AM

That's because it's the Sony Multiverse, not the Marvel Multiverse.'

[breaks mind]

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lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#33148: Feb 2nd 2024 at 9:34:43 AM

[up][up]Well, Across actually retcons Peter B. and Miles as being from Earth-616A and Earth-1610A, respectively, likely because that's when they started tapping into the actual Marvel Multiverse. They use the right numbers for the MCU and everything else. They even show Steve Ditko and John Romita Jr. panels during the explanation of Canon Events as if to confirm that, yes, they mean that 616, not something similar.

Edited by lbssb on Feb 2nd 2024 at 2:39:12 PM

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Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#33149: Feb 2nd 2024 at 11:11:40 AM

Miguel did refer to the spiderverse as something like "poly-multiversal".

So like, multiverses stacked on top of multiverses apparently.

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immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#33150: Feb 2nd 2024 at 5:28:52 PM

[up]Yeah, that's how the comics have always depicted it. The Marvel multiverse is just one multiversal branch in the "Omniverse".


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