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Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM
Do we want that?
Also, continuity is something I'd feel happy to ignore as MJ is literally someone who has lost three children to murderous supervillains.
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.It’s amazing that love triangle is viable
It gets off the ground with Wonder Man refusing to help Vision after he’s lobotomized becaise he’s decided he wants Wanda for himself
How the hell do you get past the point of “I refuse to help you in this emotionally trying time because you should date me instead” to a point where Wanda actually was with Simon instead of Vision multiple times?
Forever liveblogging the AvengersWell, John Byrne, so.
Incredibly believable.
The start of his West Coast Avengers has been incredibly painful to read because he is blatantly less interested in characterization and plot than whacking the book with a lead pipe until it’s the shape he wants it to be.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersThere's a saying the John Byrne has one idea of continuity and that's his idea of continuity. And that's very true. Anytime he gets on a book, he will immediately warp it into the way it was when either he wrote it or someone he liked wrote it, with zero regard for what anyone else did with it in the meantime.
They were shown to have been marked with sigils since the start of Dead Language, a fact everyone glossed over insisting MJ left Peter of her own free will and yada yada despite the evidence clearly being on the page and through dialogue, I myself have been saying it for months that it was going to be Zeb's 'out' all along.
Edited by Zarius on Jan 17th 2024 at 9:09:44 AM
That...might actually be good.
Like, Peter being completely useless and MJ sticking with Useless Paul even when she really doesn't have a reason to anymore (something something fake kids evaporating into thin air) for the entire run really can be explained by saying defeating Rabin didn't really get rid of the sigils. Heck, if we want to finally cancel Paul once and for all, we could reveal that Paul KNEW the sigils were still there but just didn't bother telling anyone because "oooh, daddy promised me an empire, but he lied to me, so I'll settle for a waifu! I did nothing wrong!"
But Madame Masque is a girl and Wells hates girls and un-lazy storytelling, ergo, I don't think he's gonna stick the landing. Like, at this point, Icarus had a better chance of sticking the landing than Wells here. That's how apathetic I've become.
So I gotta ask, what was Zeb Wells known for before this run of Spider-Man?
Because it sure seems like this is gonna be the thing that defines him, and not in a good way.
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According to his page here, he seems to be best known for his work on Robot Chicken and SuperMansion. In comics specifically, he did stuff like the first five issues of Avenging Spider-Man and all of Carnage U.S.A..
Edited by TrashJack on Jan 17th 2024 at 2:28:08 PM
"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's DictionaryHe had a decent run on New Mutants and the fantastic Hellions mini prior to this. He wasn't especially notable as far as writers go, but he wasn't hated either and a lot of people hoped that Hellions was a sign he was going to be given a chance to make a big splash. Be Careful What You Wish For.
But yeah, I honestly feel bad for Wells because he's basically just the human shield for editorial's nonsense and his reputation probably will take years to recover from this, if it ever does.
Even his fantastic Hellions run underscores the point: Wells is an author with a grungy, dark, and bad humour kind of taste (and also questionable opinions of women). He's the type of guy you would want for say, a Suicide Squad book. He mentions wanting to write Wolverine, and Elektra. Carnage? perfect. But instead he gets Spider-Man.
ASM is (traditionally) the exact opposite of that. So he attempts to write a story about how everything fucking sucks and Peter can get nothing right, and everything is on it's head (aforementioned Osborne and MJ) and nobody likes him. A perfectly fine artistic choice, in a vacuum. If someone was to write apologia, that's where they would start. And that type of storytelling can work, but ASM? No way. Especially any time after One More Day. We just want Spider-Man to save the day.
TL;DR Wells is the St. Anger of ASM runs.
Edited by raykoda16 on Jan 17th 2024 at 1:51:08 AM
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I'm pretty sure Pete's been a part of a few gang wars in his history.
Daredevil probably would be a part of this, but I think he's still busy having amnesia and being a priest.
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