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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#32751: Dec 25th 2023 at 12:19:48 AM

In the latest X-Men Mondays feature over on AIPT, Jordan White indicates he'll be working on some Venom projects next year once the X-Offices wrap up the books.

SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#32752: Dec 26th 2023 at 1:43:27 AM

I've just caught up with Amazing Spider-Man and I have to admit that... I don't hate it. While I wouldn't say it is a good story, I still enjoyed parts of it (Rak-Rap and White Rabbit were fun, and I am liking Gang War so far) and I think the thing I liked least is actually the art, which was just bad at times.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#32753: Dec 26th 2023 at 11:26:19 AM

Wells and Lowe: we have plans for Ben Reilly!

Marvel: here, a miniseries about Ben and Kaine coming Summer 2024. Zeb probably won't touch it.

Wells and Lowe: if anyone asks, we came up with the idea. Maybe that way, they'll stop yelling at us!

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Dec 26th 2023 at 2:27:13 PM

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#32754: Dec 26th 2023 at 11:27:59 AM

[up] Ninj'd[nja]

Edited by Zarius on Dec 26th 2023 at 11:28:22 AM

immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#32755: Dec 26th 2023 at 1:55:41 PM

God, that image almost makes me sick. One of the few blessings of this run was that it hadn't touched Kaine and just left him off in his little world.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#32756: Dec 26th 2023 at 1:59:08 PM

Chasm is still a very very very very very stupid try hard name

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#32757: Dec 26th 2023 at 2:36:06 PM

[up]It could be worse. Especially for a character created during the 90s.

Nofix from Over there Since: Jan, 2015
#32758: Dec 26th 2023 at 4:05:02 PM

[up][up] Disagree. While the implementation of Chasm has always been shit, the aesthetics of it are on point.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#32759: Dec 26th 2023 at 4:13:48 PM

It's a stupid try hard name because of the context behind it. Would be a decent, snappy name for someone who wasn't a total cringelord.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#32760: Dec 26th 2023 at 4:21:56 PM

Chasm is basically a symbiote with the symbiote stuff taken out.

Ben fell into some non-symbiote goo, took on a symbiote-esque name, and feels like his life was personally ruined by Peter Parker.

Even if the name wasn't bad, the concept is still a transparent and lazy attempt to make Ben into Venom while keeping the actual Venom doing his own thing.

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Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#32761: Dec 26th 2023 at 5:54:49 PM

[up]and even that wasnt enough during dark web and they gave venom brain damage to bring him back to early venom

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#32762: Dec 26th 2023 at 6:23:32 PM

Chasm is still a very very very very very stupid try hard name

If the guy who takes over ASM after Wells doesn't make fun of Chasm, I'll eat a hat.

Heck, just about everything from the Wells era screams "please fix/make fun of us!"

immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#32763: Dec 26th 2023 at 7:39:26 PM

I can only really picture two possibilities for the next run. Either it's just a marathon Take That! at Wells/Lowe's work or it just ignores everything that happened in it and basically goes "let's just pretend we're picking up where the Spencer run left off".

raykoda16 Volunteer Vexilologist from Between here and there Since: Apr, 2019
Volunteer Vexilologist
#32764: Dec 26th 2023 at 8:43:46 PM

What they gotta do (and joke directly stolen from /r/D Ccomicscirclejerk) is get Carlie and Paul together, and send them on a bus away. That would fix everything.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#32765: Dec 26th 2023 at 8:45:23 PM

I made the joke about Carlie and Paul getting together way before that sub did.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#32766: Dec 26th 2023 at 8:47:57 PM

They rescued Carlie from the scrappy heap so I guess that option isn't impossible for Paul. And let's not forget Kaine wasn't always popular.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#32767: Dec 26th 2023 at 8:50:47 PM

My favorite Kaine is Mayday’s grumpy uncle and my close second favorite is grumpy Scarlet Spider Kaine

Grumpiness is essential

Edited by Bocaj on Dec 26th 2023 at 12:23:12 PM

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#32768: Dec 26th 2023 at 8:52:22 PM

Kaine: It's not like I care about my niece or anything, BAKA!!

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#32769: Dec 26th 2023 at 8:54:13 PM

You just need to find another use to the guy beyond an obvious wall between Peter and MJ. Given the cards they dealt, that'll probably be supervillain or something like that, but I might be wrong.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#32770: Dec 26th 2023 at 9:23:21 PM

I agree.

I'm actually against killing Paul because it would mean nothing to no one.

If you're gonna forget him forget him. But Carlie got fixed.

Now if she died, it might get a reaction beyond casual disdain.

The same can be done for Paul. In fact, I'd consider it a sign of excellent writing if you could make Paul a character that people would care about if he died.

The first step is to make him more than an obstacle. Second step, give us some real details about his involvement in what his dad did. Then work from there.

Take responsibility for what you created comic writers. Take responsibility.

One Strip! One Strip!
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#32771: Dec 26th 2023 at 9:24:47 PM

Carlie was fixed so that she’s not obnoxious anymore but new investigative Carlie doesn’t do anything that couldn’t be done with Betty Brant

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raykoda16 Volunteer Vexilologist from Between here and there Since: Apr, 2019
Volunteer Vexilologist
#32772: Dec 26th 2023 at 10:37:03 PM

It's an obvious easy joke. I heard it from there first.

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Tiamatty X-Men X-Pert from Now on Twitter Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Brony
#32773: Dec 26th 2023 at 11:17:50 PM

"I can only really picture two possibilities for the next run. Either it's just a marathon Take That! at Wells/Lowe's work or it just ignores everything that happened in it and basically goes "let's just pretend we're picking up where the Spencer run left off". " Neither option is particularly good, honestly. The first option is just awful. You don't deal with shitty writing with more shitty writing. Maliciousness doesn't work. Maybe the occasional off-hand comment or something, but as an extended thing? No.

The second option isn't great, either. The way to go is to just continue off from where the previous run ended. Look for interesting plot hooks that aren't already resolved, and let the characters deal with what they've been through.

As for Paul, if he's still alive by the end of Wells' run, then odds are, the best way to handle him would be to let him leave. Give him a couple years for people to kinda forget about him. At that point, if someone has an interesting idea for him, they can give it a try and see if it works. If it doesn't, oh well.

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Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#32774: Dec 26th 2023 at 11:23:25 PM

Also, wasn't Spencer's run a huge status quo shifter that reverted everything back to the way it was before? If Peter can lose his doctorate in five panels, I don't see what the Wells run is doing that's so permanent it can never be dealt with.

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#32775: Dec 26th 2023 at 11:29:01 PM

I said this before here: you can just say everyone in this run was a Space Phantom and the real people were off doing something else and lose absolutely nothing. Paul can go die on the way back to his home planet for all I care. Though making him an actual villain would be funny.

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