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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

neoamon Mr from Planet Mobius S.T.C. (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
Mr
#32526: Dec 7th 2023 at 6:59:59 AM

How about introducing a Spiderman/Peter Parker that is a villain from another universe as an arch-enemy. This universe has heroes and villains that have swapped roles, just like Earth 3 from DC Comics.

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Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#32527: Dec 7th 2023 at 7:29:26 AM

Personally, I've had enough Spider-Verse. And we do have some alternate Peter Parkers who aren't very pleasant.

But not sure the evil mirror universe works so well for this role. Exiles has used it more widely. I think.

That said, if anyone wants to write an arc with an alternate White Rabbit who's Joker-level The Dreaded, or a scarily competent Big Wheel who's his world's equivalent of Doom, I'd read it.

Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#32528: Dec 7th 2023 at 8:04:11 AM

I feel the same way about the original Hobgoblin story that I would about FACADE.

If they revealed it was Kingsley back then, it wouldn't have meant much, he wasn't a real character. His only story then was that he worked with MJ for a bit. This is why the story about his reveal was actually about clearing Ned Leeds' name, because he's a guy we care about.

With FACADE, unless they end up revealing it was John Jameson, which it's probably too late to do at this point, it'll end up being one of the characters we've never seen again since those issues, and it won't have the same impact.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#32529: Dec 7th 2023 at 8:09:21 AM

Likely whoever FACADE was meant to be either hadn’t been revealed and built up yet or was a minor character from that era that has fallen off the map by this point

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#32530: Dec 7th 2023 at 11:22:41 PM

How about introducing a Spiderman/Peter Parker that is a villain from another universe as an arch-enemy.

You mean like Spider-Carnage from the 90s Spider-Man show.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#32531: Dec 8th 2023 at 12:26:01 AM

I was reading an article about FACADE that seemed to narrow it down to two candidates appearing in the same story: John Jameson and a new character.

It seems really easy to just assume it's the new character, which doesn't leave much of a mystery at all.

immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#32532: Dec 8th 2023 at 6:59:52 AM

[up]Yeah, that is the amusing irony of Facade being this big unsolved mystery. In the context of the actual comic he debuted in, it's really not much of a mystery at all, because there was only, like, two or three suspects and one of those suspects was a long-time supporting cast member who wouldn't make sense as the reveal at all.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#32533: Dec 8th 2023 at 11:14:49 AM

CBR interview with Celeste Bronfman on the Jackpot Gang War one-shot, complete with an unlettered preview of the first five pages.

So it kinda solidifies that no, MJ probably has no appearance in the actual Gang War event, Paul is her Man in the Chair, and I guess this will be how Spidey finds out about Jackpot. Also, She-Electro.

UGGGGHHHH.

TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#32534: Dec 8th 2023 at 11:20:12 AM

[up] Kindly excuse me while I go whack my head against a wall for the next few hours or so.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#32535: Dec 8th 2023 at 12:47:25 PM

Wells: Every time Paul isn't on camera, everyone should be asking where's Paul?

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#32536: Dec 8th 2023 at 1:10:42 PM

[up][up] You mind if I join you?

[up] How long until we get to the part where Paul says he has to go because his people need him and then he dies on the way there? (*realizes that his Earth is deader than dead*) Goddamn it, Wells.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Dec 8th 2023 at 10:34:37 AM

immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#32537: Dec 8th 2023 at 2:04:01 PM

I unironically am curious how subsequent writers will handle the Paul situation.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#32538: Dec 8th 2023 at 2:15:35 PM

Either they'll ignore him or murder him.

I don't think anyone cares enough to try anything else.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#32539: Dec 8th 2023 at 2:20:55 PM

Green Goblin murders Paul to mock Peter. Calling it now.

Conveniently letting MJ and Peter date again until the next time Editorial can pull the rug.

Or Norman finally reveals he's been in MJ's body and kills Paul after having sex.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Dec 8th 2023 at 6:21:07 PM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#32540: Dec 8th 2023 at 4:30:51 PM

I think they're gonna keep him around for a bit after the breakup, and then write him off.

The Paul situation has always reminded me of what happened with Carlie Cooper, so I think things will take a similar path.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#32541: Dec 8th 2023 at 4:36:06 PM

Calling it now, Carlie Cooper and Paul comic.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#32542: Dec 8th 2023 at 5:07:45 PM

Getting rid of Paul by shacking him up with Carlie actually feels like a somewhat clever idea, which means they won't do it. Dispose of one Poochie by attaching him to another Poochie.

TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#32543: Dec 8th 2023 at 5:36:04 PM

[up] "We have to go now. Our wedding planner needs us."

NOTE: Carlie and Paul died on the way to their wedding.

[down] Not really, she's basically not even in the comics anymore at this point. She's more along the lines of collateral damage in getting rid of Paul.

Edited by TrashJack on Dec 8th 2023 at 9:39:18 AM

"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#32544: Dec 8th 2023 at 6:03:37 PM

Is Carlie still so bad she deserves something like that?

One Strip! One Strip!
Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#32545: Dec 8th 2023 at 7:55:36 PM

What I was referencing was how Carlie was used in Spencer's run, where she was mostly used as MJ's sidekick, and then the run ends with her dating Overdrive for reasons I don't remember.

immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#32546: Dec 8th 2023 at 7:58:51 PM

[up]Overdrive's a handsome motherfucker.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#32547: Dec 8th 2023 at 8:00:13 PM

Oh yeah Francine Frye is still around.

What a weird a character, just basically female Electro with nothing else a out her.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#32548: Dec 8th 2023 at 8:12:38 PM

She's appeared a lot recently. She's on Beetle's sinister Syndicate, and I'm pretty sure at the same time as that she was on Kingpin's Thunderbolts.

It's weird that a character who came out of the clone conspiracy is getting this much use from other writers, I'm a little shocked.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#32549: Dec 8th 2023 at 8:14:01 PM

She even falls for the tricks that Max eventually became too smart for, like the old activate the sprinklers and short Electro out trick.

And when Max Dillon is too smart to fall for a trick, you know you're a novice.

One Strip! One Strip!
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#32550: Dec 8th 2023 at 8:58:53 PM

Funnily enough, the stuff with Spider-Boy has regular Electro.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"

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