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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

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     Original Thread OP 
Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#32376: Nov 28th 2023 at 6:48:28 AM

For the love of god editorial.

Just bring back the marriage.

Everyone is fighting you on it. It is really worth it at this point.

One Strip! One Strip!
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#32377: Nov 28th 2023 at 6:49:51 AM

I'm all for making fun of 616 Spider-Man TBH.

He deserves it for that deal with Mephisto.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#32378: Nov 28th 2023 at 7:24:41 AM

[up]I don’t want to mock him.

He’s just a character that editors are forcing to act the way they want instead of who he should be.

One Strip! One Strip!
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#32379: Nov 28th 2023 at 7:46:31 AM

I just pretend RYV Spidey is the main one, timeline fits. Though maybe replacing Eddie Brock with Mac Gargan as the Venom who gets killed by Spider-Man.

616 Spidey is a lost cause.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#32380: Nov 28th 2023 at 8:48:05 AM

[up]Yeah, headcanon is the one-above-all intervened in OMD at the last minute and 'deposited' Peter and MJ in a universe that didn't have either and just rejiggered everyone's memories to accommodate them, then Peter and MJ had Annie.

Edited by Zarius on Nov 28th 2023 at 8:51:32 AM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#32381: Nov 28th 2023 at 8:56:03 AM

That was nice of turbo god

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#32382: Nov 28th 2023 at 9:08:12 AM

Also RYV Spidey can proudly say he didn’t collaborate with the PRC.

Thanks Parker Industries.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#32383: Nov 28th 2023 at 9:10:40 AM

The degree with which alternate takes on Spidey are ragging on what a loser the main one is, with even comic AUs getting into it now, really does make me think it's all down to a handful of suits with a grudge, maybe even just Cebulski and Lowe.

immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#32384: Nov 28th 2023 at 9:21:17 AM

[up]Its pretty much an Open Secret that that’s the case.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#32385: Nov 28th 2023 at 9:46:19 AM

[up] Interesting. Any source for that? Like, it’s obviously a logical hypothesis, but you should always check your sources on the Internet.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#32386: Nov 28th 2023 at 11:20:54 AM

Oh brother, when you bet a horde of spiders that think it's you has a better life than you...that's bonkers.

Now I'm starting to think it's not a coincidence that we're seeing prime Peter getting compared to Peter variants.

primenumber101 Since: Mar, 2017
#32387: Nov 28th 2023 at 11:22:11 AM

I dont think 616 Spidey is the lost cause and I dont want him to be like that.

Just stop doing it with a editorial mandate and give him good status quo and good story to tell.

knightstorm Since: Feb, 2022
#32388: Nov 28th 2023 at 3:42:51 PM

We've reached a point now when even the old defenses for OMD (claims that it was just a small number of readers who wanted Peter to get old and die that wanted him married) has fallen apart. Even the other versions of Peter are openly mocking Post-OMD Peter. I've reached the point myself where my only interest in 616 Peter is to laugh at him. Ultimate and the Insomniac games are the "real" Spider-Man now.

Edited by knightstorm on Nov 28th 2023 at 3:43:10 AM

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#32389: Nov 28th 2023 at 3:47:23 PM

My interest is in the hopes things can and will get better, as unlikely as it seems right now.

The Protomen enhanced my life.
knightstorm Since: Feb, 2022
#32390: Nov 28th 2023 at 3:51:25 PM

[up]If the current editorial finally gets canned...it could happen. But who can guess when that would be? Maybe the constant mockery of their work even within the halls of Marvel Comics will finally drive them away?

Antiyonder (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#32391: Nov 28th 2023 at 4:06:12 PM

Again, it also depends if in time readers in general, not just a handful stop feeding the crap with nonstop attention. Reviews to let us know the condition of quality or lack of for ASM is good, just that there needs to be even more attention for alternatives likes the new USM, and again Gargoyles which when a story gets the "Things will never be the same again", it actually has some weight.

Helps to support any fresh reprints for Spider-Girl or Renew Your Vows if they do second reprints for it.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#32392: Nov 28th 2023 at 4:12:49 PM

Plus it's a sad truth that the Editorial has very little incentive to change, even if this run is the most negatively received one in a long while, it's still printing money. Editorial can basically get away with shit like this, they'll face no consequences for losing talent like Nick Spencer.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
knightstorm Since: Feb, 2022
#32393: Nov 28th 2023 at 4:32:28 PM

[down]Yep. ASM is pretty much "grandfathered in". It's a staple in the industry that will always have support no matter how awful the product is. Our best hope of getting rid of current editorial...is if they do something that gets themselves fired.

Antiyonder (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#32394: Nov 28th 2023 at 5:09:01 PM

True, but even if sales can't be significantly sunk, more attention could still be given to any alternatives.

knightstorm Since: Feb, 2022
#32395: Nov 28th 2023 at 5:17:52 PM

[up]Well for my part...I already have Gargoyles on my pull list...and plan on picking up Ultimate Spider-Man next year.

Antiyonder (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#32396: Nov 28th 2023 at 5:41:57 PM

Cool. And yeah providing that anyone here interested in both titles do frequent other sites where discussion is present, helps to give either and more a shout out.

MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#32397: Nov 28th 2023 at 6:00:39 PM

The MCU might also provide an avenue for change on that front. Have a money where Spidey and MJ hook up, and then in a few years have a daughter. and then watch Marvel scramble for movie synergy or trying to appease the bigger fish.

(this does need at least a few years and Sony's collaboration though)

TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#32398: Nov 28th 2023 at 6:36:52 PM

[up] Man, how bad has Spider-Editorial gotten that we're now at the point that we hope for Executive Meddling from the marketing department (a.k.a. the very thing that turned The Clone Saga into the hot mess in the Spidey comics before One More Day) to fix everything?

Edited by TrashJack on Nov 28th 2023 at 9:37:17 AM

"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
Mega_zxa Since: Mar, 2015
#32399: Nov 28th 2023 at 9:27:02 PM

It is really sad that Spider-Man ended up becoming a victim of the comics success. Spider-Man just ended up becoming so big that no one up top actually attempts to make sure their ideas actually measure up. They just slap something down and just don't care.

It kinda shows something. Marvel wants to be the world outside your window but the thing about the world outside your window is that it changes,it moves forwards, it grows up. Marvel just doesn't want to let the world grow.

primenumber101 Since: Mar, 2017
#32400: Nov 28th 2023 at 10:34:51 PM

My brother thinks the entire Zeb Wells run is just one huge f—- you towards fans from Marvel Editorials for keep asking for marriage to coming back. and honestly, I think he is right at this moment.

Edited by primenumber101 on Nov 28th 2023 at 10:35:15 AM


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