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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

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     Original Thread OP 
Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#32326: Nov 23rd 2023 at 5:52:27 PM

Where did that happen?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#32327: Nov 23rd 2023 at 7:35:56 PM

Huh, been seeing speculation Spencer may have been pushed out of the company altogether for his anti-OMD views. Ordinarily I'd feel that's vilifying editorial a bit too much, but his final issue of Spider-Man IS the literal last thing he wrote for Marvel, and writers of A-list books don't typically just vanish like that even after their run ends - Geoff Johns worked at DC for many years after his Green Lantern concluded, for instance.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#32328: Nov 23rd 2023 at 8:13:25 PM

Didn't he take a break for a bit after Secret Empire? Before he took over Spider-Man i mean.

Unless i am misinterpreting the timeline.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#32329: Nov 23rd 2023 at 10:03:22 PM

Huh. So I was checking out some more issues of Uncanny Spider-Man on Scans Daily.

Has Spidey never fought Mystique before?

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#32330: Nov 24th 2023 at 1:24:00 AM

So can someone explain the context of MJ's aunt going crazy and trying to murder people after eating cake?

Paul blamed it on the mutants.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#32331: Nov 24th 2023 at 1:29:59 AM

I think Orchis laced the Krakoa drugs with murder drugs to frame the mutants and establish a pretext to introduce their hot new Iron Mutant Smasher Sentinels.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#32332: Nov 24th 2023 at 1:30:38 AM

Wait, what?

How does this put heat on Mutants again?

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#32333: Nov 24th 2023 at 1:32:55 AM

It makes it look like the mutants of Krakoa had a secret evil scheme with all the drugs they sell

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Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#32334: Nov 24th 2023 at 1:36:39 AM

Krakoa was distributing drugs to prevent dementia and extend lifespan, as part of their effort to establish the new mutant nation.

The anti-mutant extremists of Orchis managed to tamper with the supply and used this to blackmail Krakoa. To prove they were serious they activated the hidden payload in some of the humans who'd taken them.

[nja]'d.

Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 24th 2023 at 9:37:04 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#32335: Nov 24th 2023 at 1:36:39 AM

...Why are the X-Men drug dealers?

Oh, Okay.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Nov 24th 2023 at 5:37:04 PM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#32336: Nov 24th 2023 at 1:37:46 AM

It's medicine.

They basically invented some good hyper medicine and are selling it to other countries so Krakoa can gain wealth and connections to other nations.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#32337: Nov 24th 2023 at 1:38:51 AM

Ah, that soft power method.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#32338: Nov 24th 2023 at 1:40:24 AM

As Magneto put it early on in the Hickman X-Men run.

They'll take over the world, but not through domineering force but by providing a service that the world can't do without and they'll get immeasurably rich off it.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
reppuzan Since: Dec, 2014
#32339: Nov 24th 2023 at 4:56:19 AM

Then Hank went one step further by bombing shipments of insulin and cancer drugs to further drive up demand.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#32340: Nov 24th 2023 at 5:23:15 AM

Dude went full war criminal from what I hear.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#32341: Nov 24th 2023 at 5:26:50 AM

He killed an entire country of geneticists.

Or maybe not.

It depends on whether they survived being turned into Swamp Thing.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#32342: Nov 24th 2023 at 5:29:24 AM

I raise this topic in the X-Men thread and people insist on discussing this on the Spider-Man thread.

[lol]

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Nofix from Over there Since: Jan, 2015
#32343: Nov 24th 2023 at 9:54:49 PM

Speaking of X-Men and Spider-Man, has he ever met Quentin Quire? I imagine they wouldn't get along.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#32344: Nov 24th 2023 at 9:59:25 PM

can't you say that about anyone meeting quentin quire

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#32345: Nov 24th 2023 at 9:59:52 PM

If only someone would stop him

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Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#32346: Nov 24th 2023 at 10:29:11 PM

[up]×2 I believe they met in Spider-Man and the X-Men. He also met Ock as Superior Spider-Man.

Edited by Cortez on Nov 25th 2023 at 1:54:41 PM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#32347: Nov 25th 2023 at 9:19:29 AM

Huh. I must have forgotten that.

Then again, I feel like a lot of other Marvel heroes don't like Peter lately either.

Like, there was a recent Comic with Sam Wilson where Sam caught him while he was falling, but then wanted to drop him.

Pete's snark has really tried the last nerves of a vast majority of his fellow heroes I think.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#32348: Nov 25th 2023 at 10:14:21 AM

None of them noticed that Doc Ock replaced him.

That's how little they care about Spider-Man. Hell most of them fall hook line and sinker for Kingpin's scheme to alienate Spider-Man.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
LoneCourier0 The Wandering Geek from A Diverse Land (Unitroper) Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
The Wandering Geek
#32349: Nov 25th 2023 at 10:24:46 AM

Even more reasons with the non-comic media is better.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#32350: Nov 25th 2023 at 10:26:36 AM

Spider writing undermines the rest of the verse so he can be the most put upon boy

It’s like Captain America shoving the runaways into various homes without doing any checking into them or caring that a bunch of kids with powers and super tech all just lost their parents

Necessary to make the Runaways’ dumb thing work and out of character for Cap

Spider writers want to write him alienated by the heroes so he’ll hang out with Boomerang more so the other heroes look like idiots

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