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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

  • Apart from the main Marvel Universe titles, Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man "What If?" stories, crossovers, guest appearances in other books, Alternate Universe tales and things like Marvel's manga adaptations are all on-topic here.
  • Spider-Man 'family' books are on-topic (as are their own crossovers, guest appearances etc.) - e.g. Spider-Man 2099, Miles Morales, Spider-Woman, Silk, Spider-Gwen, Venom, Carnage, Black Cat, Red Goblin and Spider-Verse.
  • Characters and comics that originated in Spider-Man but are no longer directly connected to the spider-franchise (e.g. Punisher, Silver Sable) are not on-topic, unless you're discussing historical connections and crossovers. If in doubt, check before you write a long post. If this isn't the right place, there's a more general Marvel Comics thread which covers them.

Technically, Marvel's Infinity Comics (and their predecessors, Infinite Comics) are webcomics, not comic books, but it's fine to talk about their Spider-Man stories here.

Discussions that are only about Spider-Man adaptations in other media (films, video games etc.) are off-topic, but discussing the differences between the adaptations and the original comics is fine - as long as spoilers for the adaptations are tagged.

Please follow the spoiler policy rules - tag spoilers for the latest issues, for any previews or content leaks, and for off-topic comics. When including spoiler tags, try to write so that tropers can make an informed decision before viewing them (e.g. which series and issue will they spoil?).

     Original Thread OP 
Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#32201: Nov 20th 2023 at 9:09:12 AM

So kind of like Doom bots.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#32203: Nov 20th 2023 at 10:46:09 AM

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/b6e4802a_a005_41dd_8695_10f922ba0440.png

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#32204: Nov 20th 2023 at 11:13:44 AM

That post does just about sum up Peter and Gwen’s interactions as a couple lol.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
knightstorm Since: Feb, 2022
#32206: Nov 20th 2023 at 2:54:20 PM

Like I've said before...I'd love a good What If story that showed what would happen if Gwen lived ...and kept everyone in character. None of that "Saint Gwen" stuff...show how dysfunctional that marriage would really be.[lol]

Edited by knightstorm on Nov 20th 2023 at 2:54:56 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#32207: Nov 20th 2023 at 3:00:47 PM

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/4892b7ca_7795_4114_b225_430a9fb7f666.jpeg

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#32208: Nov 20th 2023 at 3:03:05 PM

That is an AMAZING reaction-face.

Definitely would like some context on these panels though.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#32209: Nov 20th 2023 at 3:05:03 PM

I think this was after Captain Stacy died. Lemme double check.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#32210: Nov 20th 2023 at 9:23:10 PM

"Gwen the Devil" is just the opposite extreme of "Saint Gwen".

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#32211: Nov 20th 2023 at 11:36:54 PM

yeah both absolutely undersell how bad she was

Peter has a bad habit of treating clones in kinda shitty ways. Remember in Life Story where Peter let Gwen Stacy die because he assumed she was the clone, and divorced his wife when it turns out she was a clone.

That's not what happened - he hesitated, but went to save them. Norman and Gwen were already dead, so he could only save his own clone.

Then we see Helen and Ben leaving at the end, but it's actually not explained *why* she's not staying with Peter. It's one of the things that bugs me about Life Story, because the conclusion really doesn't make sense.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#32212: Nov 21st 2023 at 1:04:06 AM

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/download_15_4.png

Yeah, my memory was pretty blurry and I only remembered this part of the story clearly. He was pretty fine with letting the clones die and not rescue them till the clone Gwen convinced him to give a damn.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#32213: Nov 21st 2023 at 1:42:53 AM

'Ultimate Spider-Man #1' Cover Spotlights Peter Parker and Mary Jane's Ultimate Love Story

I really like the cover and I'm looking forward to the book, but this does also feel a little bit like good-natured trolling towards the 616 approach.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#32214: Nov 21st 2023 at 2:02:36 AM

Just wait till it's revealed that this Peter is actually Paul. The beard gives it away.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#32215: Nov 21st 2023 at 2:08:55 AM

[up][up] I still have a theory that Ultimate MJ will be the sacrificial 'Uncle Ben' by the end of the fifth issue and Peter will be left to raise the kids on his own while being Spider-Man

Edited by Zarius on Nov 21st 2023 at 2:09:08 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#32216: Nov 21st 2023 at 2:09:28 AM

That will certainly kill interest in the book.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#32217: Nov 21st 2023 at 2:46:21 AM

I think we'll get a major twist. The status quo we're seeing is just the starting point. The hero doesn't get to stay happy forever.

But I'd be surprised if they used MJ or the kids for that. Do we know the status of Ben, May, Peter's parents and Teresa yet? Any of them could get a Death by Origin Story moment.

(Have we had a variant where May dies and Ben raises Peter yet?)

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#32218: Nov 21st 2023 at 2:52:40 AM

There's a what if with that premise yeah.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#32219: Nov 21st 2023 at 3:21:49 AM

Yeah, my memory was pretty blurry and I only remembered this part of the story clearly. He was pretty fine with letting the clones die and not rescue them till the clone Gwen convinced him to give a damn.

That's not what's shown on the page there. He was stressed, checking that Gwen was okay, and confused.

That's not "pretty fine with letting the clones die".

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#32220: Nov 21st 2023 at 5:42:18 AM

Do we know the status of Ben, May, Peter's parents and Teresa yet? Any of them could get a Death by Origin Story moment.

In Hickman's Ultimate Universe? Peter's parents, Teresa, and Ben are unknown but the Ultimate Universe one-shot reveals that May was among the people that went missing or got killed when the bad guys tried to snuff out the 6160 variants of Tony, Reed (Iron Lad and Dr. Doom, long story), Thor, and Sif by zapping the building they were in. Also among the disappeared are Norman Osborn and his wife, ergo Harry is all by himself.

So for all we know, 6160!Peter might have already gotten someone with the death by origin story before becoming Spider-Man.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Nov 21st 2023 at 8:52:18 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#32221: Nov 21st 2023 at 7:10:37 AM

yeah both absolutely undersell how bad she was

Saiga's knife cuts the deepest.cool

One Strip! One Strip!
immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#32222: Nov 21st 2023 at 7:16:12 AM

[up][up]With how willing and eager adaptations and elseworlds are to kill Aunt May nowadays, it was kind of inevitable that we’d get a series where she’s dead before we even meet her.

But more seriously, I highly doubt Peter will have a Death by Origin Story in Nu-Ultimate. A very big thing for the new Ultimate Universe is a willingness to do completely different takes on the characters, so maybe 6160 Peter will be someone who becomes a hero WITHOUT having to be guilt-tripped into it by losing someone important to him. Particularly since this Peter is already a father and husband when he’s getting the powers apparently.

Edited by immortaleditor on Nov 21st 2023 at 7:19:21 AM

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#32223: Nov 21st 2023 at 7:19:15 AM

[up] They haven't confirmed the identity of the new Ultimate Green Goblin yet, though. That would be a twist.

Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 21st 2023 at 3:19:32 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#32224: Nov 21st 2023 at 7:37:14 AM

Aw damn that’d be good

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#32225: Nov 21st 2023 at 9:54:28 AM

I've had this theory that MJ and Norman swapped places somehow in the Wells run.

So clearly, MARY JANE IS THE NEW ULTIMATE GREEN GOBLIN!

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"

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