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Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM
I thought the universe bonking into the main marvel universe did that
And Galactus was involved before then
Forever liveblogging the AvengersDoes Jan actually *like* Hank? Or can she just stand to be in the same room as him? I know that there was that Geoff Johns run where it seemed like they could get back together, but nowadays we can call that OOC, right?
Obviously no modern writers would put them back together, even just for the bad optics. But would modern writers even let Jan forgive him, or be close at all?
We would have answers to this if Hank was alive and they interreacted recently, but I guess not. In Ewing we trust...
Edited by raykoda16 on Nov 11th 2023 at 4:42:49 AM
U.S Army E-sports Discord Server Ban Speedrun Any%We're talking about Ultimate Janet. In Ultimates 2 she actually saw him behind Steve's back and had a great time talking with him despite the assault. And at the end of the book after Hank is arrested for assisting the Liberators, Janet is shown visiting him in prison with a sad look on her face.
Also 616 Janet likes Hank just fine. Their romantic relationship is over but she still values him as a friend and fellow hero, having since forgiven and put aside the slap years ago.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."That's really weird. Like I get 616 Janet as Hank only did that one time when he was goibg through a mental breakdown and cooled off.
But like the abuse of ultimate hank was way more extreme.
"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."Janet only starts seeing Hank again because she found Steve an unfufilling partner. Cause he was in full "I don't understand young people" and acted like an annoying old guy so Janet went back to Hank because she could hold an enjoyable conversation with him.
Not helped that when Steve found out he was more upset by how it makes him look and acting like a white knight towards her.
Edited by slimcoder on Nov 11th 2023 at 5:01:21 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."Yeah, people (like, well, Mark Millar) tend to overstate and flanderize how much of a mess Hank and Janet’s relationship was. Like, don’t get me wrong, they were messed up and bad for one another, but compared to some toxic relationships, they were far from the worst and afterwards they’re still friends who care about one another.
The same can’t be really said about Ultimate Hank and Jane, who took the toxic abuse up to eleven with Hank.
Edited by immortaleditor on Nov 11th 2023 at 6:23:13 AM
It's because Hank is such a Vanilla Protagonist that him slapping his girlfriend is what people remember about him.
Edited by CharlesPhipps on Nov 11th 2023 at 6:41:20 AM
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.The slap was part of a whole plot arc about Hank falling to his lowest point and dragging himself out of the pit
Peter slapping MJ was incidental to the specific clone saga story so it’s more forgettable
Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Besides that, not a lot of kids were exactly rushing to buy (or rather, getting their parents to buy them) T-shirts and toys of Ant-Man back before his movies came out, whereas Spidey has been about as consistently well-known and marketable as Superman and Batman since the '60s or '70s (at least until Superman started to flag in popularity in favor of Batman, and then both got caught up in the disaster that was the DCEU, leaving Spidey and the MCU-boosted Iron Man as top dogs). As such, there's a lot more motivation for Marvel to sweep an instance of Spidey committing an act of domestic violence under the rug than there was for them to do the same with Hank.
Edited by TrashJack on Nov 11th 2023 at 10:19:44 AM
"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's DictionaryHank beat up the Masters of Evil singlehandedly. It's really sad people forget that and focus on the slap instead.
Wait. I forgot. He beat up the Masters of Evil singlehandedly while chained to a wall. He didn't even move until he uncured himself afterwards and punched out Egghead.
Edited by HandsomeRob on Nov 11th 2023 at 7:39:01 AM
One Strip! One Strip!Avengers #228-230 is the span of issues. The overall arc started in #211, where Hank rejoined the Avengers very desperate to prove himself. But the Hank Kicks So Much Ass part is directly relevant to that span of issues I mentioned.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersPoor Ben Reilly, created and assassinated for the same reason of replacing Peter Parker. People liked Ben, people liked the Scarlet Spider, and hell, I'd even go as far as to say they liked Ben as a Spider-Man.
Not the Spider-Man, as in the only one, but a Spider-Man. Like
Even after all the stuff with Jackal II and Chasm, I still think there's a good story to tell with him, even if it's just a six issue mini-series. About a man burdened by a life of trauma and the weight of memories (both Peter's and his own), about a man defiantly refusing to accept the idea that he doesn't deserve a good life because he's a clone, and about a man refusing to give up his past and his memories (again, both Peter's and his own) despite how much suffering they've caused him.
TBH I kinda liked Jackal II. He wasn't even all that villainous, really; the "they'll all turn into zombies" thing felt like a Debate and Switch added fairly last-minute.
Edited by HamburgerTime on Nov 11th 2023 at 11:41:11 AM

I thought ultimates 3 and Ultimatum did that
"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."