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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

  • Apart from the main Marvel Universe titles, Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man "What If?" stories, crossovers, guest appearances in other books, Alternate Universe tales and things like Marvel's manga adaptations are all on-topic here.
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Technically, Marvel's Infinity Comics (and their predecessors, Infinite Comics) are webcomics, not comic books, but it's fine to talk about their Spider-Man stories here.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#32001: Nov 10th 2023 at 8:36:50 PM

the best part about ultimate osborn as not-hulk is that the main difference between the two becomes that osborn isn't a rapist cannibal

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#32002: Nov 10th 2023 at 8:43:05 PM

… oh my god he’s the more moral hulk of the two

What a world what a world

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TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#32003: Nov 10th 2023 at 8:45:01 PM

[up] I, for one, blame The One Below All. Not just for original-Ultimate Universe Hulk, but for that entire universe outside of Spidey's little corner of it.

"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#32004: Nov 10th 2023 at 8:47:16 PM

[up][up][up]and[up][up]

I kept thinking how to contextualize what Saiga said, but Bocaj found the words.

And for that I curse both of you.

I mean, I should probably curse the ultimate universe, but I prefer cursing both of you more.

[up]Edit: Makes sense.

Edited by HandsomeRob on Nov 10th 2023 at 8:47:45 AM

One Strip! One Strip!
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
NickTheSwing Since: Aug, 2009
#32006: Nov 10th 2023 at 9:19:20 PM

Saiga, may I just say I adore your Avatar, and I love explaining the circumstances behind it every single time Sins Past or the retcon of it come up.

Honestly, the Ultimate Marvel Universe is a time capsule to the early to mid 2000s.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#32007: Nov 10th 2023 at 9:22:25 PM

?? It’s just a normal Gwen avatar

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#32008: Nov 10th 2023 at 9:24:20 PM

[up][up]Hehe yeah, I don't think I'll be swapping this one out any time soon, it's too good.

link to the original

[up] hah!

Edited by Saiga on Nov 10th 2023 at 9:24:33 AM

TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#32009: Nov 10th 2023 at 9:31:29 PM

I like to imagine that Quentin didn't even bother with any sort of illusions there, nor did he actually go through the effort to dress, sound, or act anything like Gwen. He just put that wig on over his fishbowl helmet while continuing to act as Mysterio normally would and that was enough to convince Norman that Mysterio was Gwen Stacy.

Edited by TrashJack on Nov 10th 2023 at 1:47:52 PM

"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#32010: Nov 10th 2023 at 10:31:29 PM

Ultimate Goblin reminds me a lot of Amalgam Iron Lantern

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#32011: Nov 11th 2023 at 4:18:18 AM

Every Spider needs a Goblin.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#32012: Nov 11th 2023 at 6:37:40 AM

[up][up][up]I’ve made that exact joke. Me and my best friend like to say that Mysterio just put on a wig and called himself Gwen and Norman fell for it and had sex with him.

Years later Norman finds out the truth and says “I wondered why you had a penis”.

Edited by immortaleditor on Nov 11th 2023 at 6:38:29 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#32013: Nov 11th 2023 at 6:40:25 AM

It's hilarious, two of my favorite Spider-Man villains and THIS is one of their biggest interactions.

Norman: So tonight, could you put on a red and blue onesie?

Mysterio: Oh no, I'm not doing this again.

And as I typed that, I remember seeing an entry somewhere that Electro once paid a shapeshifting prostitute to be Spider-Man.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#32014: Nov 11th 2023 at 6:42:29 AM

[up]Chameleon has both of them beat by actually confessing his love to Spider-Man before attempting suicide.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#32015: Nov 11th 2023 at 6:47:35 AM

[up][up][up] Norman is open minded

A rare good quality from him

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#32016: Nov 11th 2023 at 3:57:38 PM

Ultimate Hulk was awesome.

Because he shows why regular Hulk is good.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#32017: Nov 11th 2023 at 4:01:45 PM

Uh I mean. We already have Maestro for that. Whose also a way more entertaining bad guy.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#32018: Nov 11th 2023 at 4:03:48 PM

I mean, not in the slightest.

The Maestro you can punch. The Ultimate Hulk is someone you need because there's no one who can replace him.

Ultimate Universe is great because it is a place of lot of compromises being necessary.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#32019: Nov 11th 2023 at 4:12:13 PM

Isn't Ultimate Hulk also someone you can just punch?

He's not even a particularly valued member of the Ultimates team, no one likes him.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#32020: Nov 11th 2023 at 4:12:59 PM

But do they hate him more than Ultimate Hank Pym?

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#32021: Nov 11th 2023 at 4:14:01 PM

Janet at least kinda likes Hank even after all the abuse.

The only person who sorta likes Bruce is Betty.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#32022: Nov 11th 2023 at 4:17:10 PM

So they both have only one person who likes them?

Seems like it's a tie so far.

One Strip! One Strip!
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#32023: Nov 11th 2023 at 4:17:33 PM

They literally replaced him with a nicer clone of himself

He sucked but then the ultimate universe never quite justified needing a hulk anyway

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#32024: Nov 11th 2023 at 4:24:11 PM

Amusingly during the Hickman run they just cut the middleman and made Hulk a full on villain by having him and Quicksilver side with Maker.

[up][up] Well Hank and Bruce also like each other so that's 2 for 2 I guess.

Edited by slimcoder on Nov 11th 2023 at 4:24:57 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#32025: Nov 11th 2023 at 4:25:31 PM

Killing the Hulk was one of the things that killed the Ultimates.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.

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