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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

  • Apart from the main Marvel Universe titles, Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man "What If?" stories, crossovers, guest appearances in other books, Alternate Universe tales and things like Marvel's manga adaptations are all on-topic here.
  • Spider-Man 'family' books are on-topic (as are their own crossovers, guest appearances etc.) - e.g. Spider-Man 2099, Miles Morales, Spider-Woman, Silk, Spider-Gwen, Venom, Carnage, Black Cat, Red Goblin and Spider-Verse.
  • Characters and comics that originated in Spider-Man but are no longer directly connected to the spider-franchise (e.g. Punisher, Silver Sable) are not on-topic, unless you're discussing historical connections and crossovers. If in doubt, check before you write a long post. If this isn't the right place, there's a more general Marvel Comics thread which covers them.

Technically, Marvel's Infinity Comics (and their predecessors, Infinite Comics) are webcomics, not comic books, but it's fine to talk about their Spider-Man stories here.

Discussions that are only about Spider-Man adaptations in other media (films, video games etc.) are off-topic, but discussing the differences between the adaptations and the original comics is fine - as long as spoilers for the adaptations are tagged.

Please follow the spoiler policy rules - tag spoilers for the latest issues, for any previews or content leaks, and for off-topic comics. When including spoiler tags, try to write so that tropers can make an informed decision before viewing them (e.g. which series and issue will they spoil?).

     Original Thread OP 
Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
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#31726: Nov 3rd 2023 at 7:40:22 AM

I think I missed some of this, as I've been dipping in and out of the Spider-books recently.

Where should I look for the Superior setup?

Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 3rd 2023 at 2:41:25 PM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#31727: Nov 3rd 2023 at 7:42:00 AM

Read Superior Spider-Man returns.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#31728: Nov 3rd 2023 at 7:44:22 AM

The “Superior Spider-Man Returns” oneshot that came out not too long ago.

raykoda16 Volunteer Vexilologist from Between here and there Since: Apr, 2019
Volunteer Vexilologist
#31729: Nov 3rd 2023 at 5:05:30 PM

What's up with putting prologues in different books with a different name. Like could Ultimate Universe #1 not possibly be just Ultimate Invasion #5? Why split it up?

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#31730: Nov 3rd 2023 at 5:09:42 PM

I was just thinking that when reading UU 1 yesterday. It really just feels like the next issue in the invasion series.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#31731: Nov 3rd 2023 at 5:41:49 PM

Number Ones Sell

That’s a hot marketing tip from the 90s. The bubble will never burst!

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immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#31732: Nov 3rd 2023 at 6:08:33 PM

The obsession the Big Two have with constantly relaunching is so absurd. It doesn’t even seem to provide any particular sales boosts to my knowledge, at least not enough to justify the practice.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#31733: Nov 3rd 2023 at 6:32:18 PM

It definitely does not make it hard to get into books when there’s like ten volumes, many which have just a handful of issues before they were cancelled to be relaunched

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#31734: Nov 3rd 2023 at 6:38:15 PM

I remember how last decade when Carol started getting her CM books, it got relaunched like 3 times in less than 5 years.

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immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#31735: Nov 3rd 2023 at 6:49:58 PM

Unstoppable Wasp was similar. It was getting relaunched multiple times in an extremely short time span if I recall right. And it didn’t even have a “number ones of this sell” excuse because that series was always doing painfully low numbers during its entire run.

Edited by immortaleditor on Nov 3rd 2023 at 6:50:15 AM

Nofix from Over there Since: Jan, 2015
#31736: Nov 3rd 2023 at 6:52:40 PM

Comics are a business. But business people are not necessarily any smarter or more prone to intelligent actions than the layperson.

immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
knightstorm Since: Feb, 2022
#31738: Nov 3rd 2023 at 7:47:45 PM

Seriously....at this point the big 2 have launched so many #1 issues...it outnumbers the individual issues of some volumes.

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#31739: Nov 3rd 2023 at 11:06:16 PM

Random question, but why is Carnage red besides artist fiat?

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raykoda16 Volunteer Vexilologist from Between here and there Since: Apr, 2019
Volunteer Vexilologist
#31740: Nov 3rd 2023 at 11:38:40 PM

Moon Knight has 9 volumes to his name (not counting Marc Spector: Moon Knight and Vengeance of) with Vol. 4 (High Strangers) having four issues. So yes, Moon Knight has more number ones then issues of one volume. Can we get a better ratio than 9/4?

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FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#31741: Nov 3rd 2023 at 11:39:22 PM

90s extreme gore style and probably its because he went through Cletus' open wound when first bonding with the guy.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#31742: Nov 3rd 2023 at 11:45:07 PM

That tracks.

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Nofix from Over there Since: Jan, 2015
#31743: Nov 4th 2023 at 12:06:22 AM

Here's a fun idea: Let's say you're the script-writer for a new Spider-Man animated TV show, one starting in his college years, and skipping over much of the early stuff like Uncle Ben dying and learning Great Responsibility. You're tasked with assembling five obscure or B-tier supervillains from his corner of the Marvel Universe to be his main enemies for the first season. Who do you pick, and how do you reinvent/reinterpret them if at all?

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#31744: Nov 4th 2023 at 12:12:04 AM

Okay my choice of obscure villains would be Big Wheel, White Rabbit, that monster Slyde, Agony, and Jessica Carradine.

Jessica is a fellow Spider person but became evil Ezekiel and uses her powers to gain as much influence and control over New York as possible and these are her team of lackeys.

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#31745: Nov 4th 2023 at 12:30:27 AM

It's funny how both Spider-Man and Batman have a loser bunny villain called White Rabbit. tongue

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#31746: Nov 4th 2023 at 1:24:17 AM

They also have cat themed burglars that they let go because they are hot.

And lost an uncle.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
reppuzan Since: Dec, 2014
#31747: Nov 4th 2023 at 6:15:05 AM

So I finally got my hands on Spider-Boy #1 and it's... not bad? It certainly doesn't deserve the vitriol being lobbed at Bailey.

Some of the humor is juvenile ("You're something worse than a vampire, you're a ginger!"), there's a literal, "How do you do, fellow kids?" moment, and Slott continues to write Robbie Robertson as an asshole.

BUT Bailey succeeds at being endearing, the action is great, Peter is portrayed as a functional adult and a competent superhero (what a low bar), and the story has a sense of Silver Age-silliness and wonder while keeping dramatic (if reasonably low) stakes.

I could definitely read a series about Bailey.

Edited by reppuzan on Nov 4th 2023 at 6:16:21 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#31748: Nov 4th 2023 at 6:17:18 AM

I have my issues with Dan Slott for sure, but his writing is masterpiece tier compared to what's going on in the current run.

He was able to keep writing Spider-Man for 10 years for a reason.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#31749: Nov 4th 2023 at 6:46:17 AM

Slott is a better side-story writer than he ever was a main book guy.

immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#31750: Nov 4th 2023 at 6:58:46 AM

In all honesty, Bailey’s concept and the way he was introduced was way worse than the actual character himself wound up being. Introducing him as an OC kid sidekick forced retroactively into Peter’s backstory and hyped up as a close friend and confidante was always going to taint the character in a lot of people’s eyes and made it seem like he was gonna be the worst kind of new character, but once you get past that… he’s really a remarkably good character, many of his stories have been unexpectedly well-written, he’s been given plenty of unique qualities to help him find a good niche in the Spiderfamily, and the idea of Spidey getting a young Robin-style sidekick isn’t actually that bad. All in all, Bailey isn’t bad.

I think an additional problem, though, is that Bailey is slightly hobbled for the same reason Miles is; his role pretty much requires Peter be the experienced and mature adult of the Spiders, but Spider-Editorial doesn’t want that. But beyond that, Bailey’s fine.

Edited by immortaleditor on Nov 4th 2023 at 6:59:24 AM


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