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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#31201: Oct 23rd 2023 at 10:51:55 AM

Well Miles is a scientist. That's one of his things. Smart enough to be one, mostly lucking out with the lottery.

Also, you don't really want to remove scientist from the black guy.

I actually think it's a good thing they moved Peter from Photographer to Scientist in the past couple of decades too.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#31202: Oct 23rd 2023 at 10:52:52 AM

[up][up][up]I guess it's an attempt at making the Spider people more relatable?

Since there's a lot of overlap with comic book nerds and science nerds.

Unfortunately, for stupid people like me, all the science babble from writers who don't know much about science as they think they do, just make the spiders unrelatable.

I really related to that bit in the first Spider-verse movie where Miles is way out of his depth in school and is struggling with things that all the others are getting with ease.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Oct 24th 2023 at 1:55:51 AM

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Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#31203: Oct 23rd 2023 at 10:54:08 AM

Comic miles seems to be a writer of some kind. Recently he's been writing in his journal a lot and his one teacher for that is the one he gets in trouble with the least.

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#31204: Oct 23rd 2023 at 10:54:29 AM

Silk seems to be into journalism.

But the writing side, not photography.

And Jessica Drew is a detective when she bothers to have a job

Gwen is a drummer.

I don’t think any of these three have more than casual knowledge of science or whatever they pick up through osmosis

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Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#31205: Oct 23rd 2023 at 10:56:45 AM

Its funny because like every other member of Jess's family is a scientist and she's a detective who likes punching people

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#31206: Oct 23rd 2023 at 10:56:49 AM

It's funny thinking about Superior's background in science.

Because he's got an actual PHD in Nuclear Physics, and years in engineering.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#31207: Oct 23rd 2023 at 10:59:06 AM

He did what Peter never could

Finish college

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#31208: Oct 23rd 2023 at 11:00:14 AM

Very big ooof. You're giving me anxiety over my college struggles.

Wait, whatever did happen to Peter re-enrolling in College AGAIN in the Spencer run? Did he pass the Lizard's class?

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immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#31209: Oct 23rd 2023 at 11:02:08 AM

[up][up] That gave me a good bitter laugh.

[up]Yeah, what the hell happened with that? Feels like it’s just been forgotten, which is weird given editorial’s obsession with taking Peter back to the college/high school days.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#31210: Oct 23rd 2023 at 11:02:35 AM

Sorry

And I dunno

Spencer was so bad at juggling subplots that I have no memory of whether Peter passed the class or dropped out. It only ever came up when someone needed to kidnap the lizard for something or Peter’s classmate invented that oracle thing

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#31211: Oct 23rd 2023 at 11:02:58 AM

...Did Peter FAIL because of lack of attendance?

Would be the cherry on top of the shit sundae that is the Wells run.

[up] Ehhh It's alright, it's only the 2nd year or so. Can't be worse than adulting for real ehhh?

Edited by RedHunter543 on Oct 24th 2023 at 2:04:00 AM

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#31212: Oct 23rd 2023 at 11:04:20 AM

He did get exploded into a coma for a while

I think that’s something college will give excused absences for but knowing Peter he never applied for it

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immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#31213: Oct 23rd 2023 at 11:05:50 AM

[up][up]Sure why not. It’s probably as good an explanation as any we’ll get. Hell, maybe Peter just plain forgot he was even taking that class. Then one day he abruptly remembers and runs to make class and we get a recreation of the “my class is over” scene from Raimi Spider-Man 2 but Curt is still Lizard.

Edited by immortaleditor on Oct 23rd 2023 at 11:06:08 AM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#31214: Oct 23rd 2023 at 11:07:14 AM

“Am I late for class??”

“By like a year, Peter”

“Yeesh”

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#31215: Oct 23rd 2023 at 11:10:32 AM

Peter is a college graduate. He just doesn't have a doctorate.

I'm not sure he even has a Masters.

And Jessica Drew is a detective when she bothers to have a job

Becoming a Decomposite Character with Jessica Jones stole a large chunk of what made Jessica unique.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Oct 23rd 2023 at 11:10:40 AM

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#31216: Oct 23rd 2023 at 11:12:58 AM

It’s funny what a blatant expy of Drew Jones is

Didn’t even change the first name

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knightstorm Since: Feb, 2022
#31217: Oct 23rd 2023 at 11:14:13 AM

Given how Wells writes Peter...he'd probably flunk out of college anyway.

immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#31218: Oct 23rd 2023 at 11:15:59 AM

[up][up][up]Yeah, poor Jess. I’ve totally lost touch with her place in the current comics, Jessie Jones got her detective role and her connection to the Spider-Family has always been nonexistent by design so she couldn’t fall back on that. Bendis almost saved her by making her part of the Avengers, but ever since he left Marvel she’s kinda been in limbo. The last I remember of anyone doing anything notable with her was that dumb Dennis Hallum run where he had her get pregnant for some reason.

Edited by immortaleditor on Oct 23rd 2023 at 11:16:20 AM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#31219: Oct 23rd 2023 at 11:18:11 AM

My best guess is that it was a continuity nod since a couple future Jesses have a son named Gerry

The only substantial role I can think of Jessica Drew having recently was as Carol’s best friend in the Captain Marvel book

That netted her fairly consistent appearances

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#31220: Oct 23rd 2023 at 11:19:47 AM

[up][up] The funny thing I think she's doing pretty well.

Jessica still gets and is abld to support her own ongoings, which is more than I can say for Jessica Jones who hasn't had a new book since the multiverse miniseries with Gail Simone.

Edited by slimcoder on Oct 23rd 2023 at 11:20:33 AM

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#31221: Oct 23rd 2023 at 11:20:58 AM

Bendis being gone and Jess Jones being married with child seems to have put her in a semi limbo

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immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#31222: Oct 23rd 2023 at 11:28:54 AM

[up][up][up]After a quick refresher look at the wiki, yeah, that was it. Jess’ 616 son is, in fact, the 616 Gerry. Now that we’re mentioning it, I actually am okay with Jess being a mom. I love MC2 (it’s still the “canon” Marvel future in my headcanon) so having Gerry be in the mainstream is cool, and it’s not a bad development. I just dislike how Hallum did it, because his writing left a lot to be desired and he clearly didn’t care to actually explore the character development that would be required for Jess being willing to even have a kid and was generally half-baked in his execution. I’m not a fan of Hallum’s work and never have been.

[up]It is kinda funny how Jessica Jones is stuck in a kinda semi-limbo now that Bendis is gone. She used to be such a staple of Marvel during his time there, now she’s largely disappeared into the mists of being Luke’s wife and Danielle’s mom.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#31223: Oct 23rd 2023 at 11:32:22 AM

Jess D’s pregnancy was played up as a mystery box, I think?

Like ooooooo who’s the dad????

And then it turned out to be a random donor?

(We all know it was Carol somehow though. Maybe after she was exposed to Red Carolnite)

Anyway. Yeah like other mystery boxes, playing it up as an enigma robs a lot of characterization out of it for an ultimately lackluster payoff

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#31224: Oct 23rd 2023 at 11:33:42 AM

[up]It is kinda funny how Jessica Jones is stuck in a kinda semi-limbo now that Bendis is gone. She used to be such a staple of Marvel during his time there, now she’s largely disappeared into the mists of being Luke’s wife and Danielle’s mom.

That’s what happens when you’re tightly tied with a specific writer, and then that writer not only leaves, but fans turn on him.

Fortunately Miles hasn’t had that issue. Not sure about Riri though.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#31225: Oct 23rd 2023 at 11:33:53 AM

The intent there was probably to kill off any speculation on who the father could be and say it doesn't matter.

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