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Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM
I recall Otto kinda did in in Marvels.
He never flat out said he was taking credit, but he apparently did have a big smile on his face when it got brought up.
One Strip! One Strip!Knowing Otto, he didn’t intend for George to die nor did he really bother to take credit for it, but he was happy with the end result. Which makes sense, considering Peter lost one of his earliest and strongest allies and took a major hit to his already dicey reputation while also carrying the guilt of being partially responsible for the whole mess. It wasn’t intentional murder, but Otto definitely benefited from it, so of course he would smile about it.
Another case of a villain getting away with a major crime and not getting punished for it. It's why his death at the hands of Kaine during the Clone Saga was, to a degree, satisfying. It's a (clone of) Peter getting his revenge (although I can't remember if he had those memories off the top of my head).
Otto took credit for it in the sinister six novels
Not publicly but he chose it as his place in the “rub Spider-Man’s failures in his face” thing
Edited by Bocaj on Oct 20th 2023 at 7:23:02 AM
Forever liveblogging the AvengersLooking back now that you mention, for all the crap it was given, Otto getting murdered by Kaine was actually a pretty fitting send off for the character, or more accurately, could have been. I think if they had given Ock a proper “goodbye” arc like Kraven got, it would’ve gone over a lot better; have him pull off one big memorable final scheme or a big last fight with Peter or Kaine, and it would’ve served the purposes of retiring Otto and establishing Kaine as a big deal without any of the hard feelings the way they went with did.
The inherent idea of Otto dying to a new villain and the purpose it served at the time — providing closure for one of Spidey’s oldest enemies while also highlighting how Spider-Man’s world and life is changing via his old enemies dying off and being replaced by newer and more dangerous ones — wasn’t actually a bad one. It just needed a better, more thorough execution that gave Otto more of a swan song.
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IIRC, Ben and Kaine both had all of Peter's memories up to the point they were cloned, and I don't think the Jackal started cloning Peter until after Gwen died, so Kaine should most likely remember George Stacy's death.
Edited by TrashJack on Oct 20th 2023 at 7:27:31 AM
"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary![]()
The Sinister Six is Doctor Octopus’ gang, made up of Spider-Man’s toughest and most important enemies. This is the big boy’s club, where guys like the aforementioned Doc Ock, Kraven, Vulture, Venom, Mysterio, and such — the guys who have deep and personal histories and grudges with Peter — go for team ups. Anytime they show up as a team, it’s a big deal.
The Sinister Syndicate (also known as the Sinister Several or Superior Foes in its later incarnation) is a C-and-D-list Harmless Villain team started and usually led by Boomerang that tries to copy the Sinister Six but doesn’t have anything approaching the power level or personal significance to Spidey. It’s made up exclusively of lower-level goofballs who never do stuff worse than robbing banks without hurting anyone. They appear mostly as comic relief.
Edited by immortaleditor on Oct 22nd 2023 at 2:25:58 AM
The Sinister Syndicate name is also sometimes used in adaptations for what is obviously meant to be the Sinister 6 in terms of threat level, but doesn't have exactly six members, like the Universal Studios ride or (informally) the villains in No Way Home, both of which are Sinister Six-level villain teamups but are composed of five villains.
Edited by lbssb on Oct 22nd 2023 at 5:42:58 AM
Disney100 Marathon | DreamWorks MarathonPutting a number in your team name really limits your options if you don’t want people calling you bad at basic counting
Forever liveblogging the AvengersAh yes. Carolyn Trainer.
Her stealing Olivia's look is interesting.
It's easy to forgot the Female Doctor Octopus concept has been around for years. Hell, not too long after Spider Verse, a version of her even appeared in the second season of Marvel's Spider-Man.
One Strip! One Strip!
That's ten limbs!
You cheater! YOU CHEATER!
Unless there's a type of Octopus with ten limbs. Because if so,then I'm just an idiot.
One Strip! One Strip!

I mean, it is pretty much his fault. He made Ock's arms go haywire and knock the rubble off the roof.
You never hear Otto take credit for that event for a reason.