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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#31051: Oct 17th 2023 at 1:24:22 PM

I want to make a joke about Cebluski having a different perspective since he's Japanese, but I'm not sure how to phrase it without it coming across as racist rather than a commentary about him pretending to be Japanese and still having a job.

Edit - Of course, page topper.

Edited by Hodor2 on Oct 17th 2023 at 1:24:33 AM

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#31052: Oct 17th 2023 at 1:29:23 PM

Just explaining it is very funny...and horrifying.

Which makes it funnier.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#31053: Oct 18th 2023 at 1:21:09 AM

Just read that there's a new Mary Jane trade coming out in February, the selection of stories includes the first issue of "Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane", Untold Tales of Spider-Man#16, Amazing Spider-Man Annual#19, the Roger Stern penned story from 2010's Many Loves of the Amazing Spider-Man one shot, and the fifth issue of Amazing Mary Jane where she took on the Savage Six.

It seems the trade is pushing the post-OMD status quo, avoiding stories where they were married and carefully selecting stories that focus on MJ's friendship with Peter and the BND premise of their eventual romance being a swing and a miss (the inclusion of "Many Loves..."), although the trade ending with the AMJ material is encouraging, as by that point they'd given their relationship another go. If this were ten years ago, it'd have ended on the "Many Loves" story.

Edited by Zarius on Oct 18th 2023 at 1:23:25 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#31054: Oct 18th 2023 at 2:02:49 AM

One of the most laughable parts of this is that despite constantly trying to push away MJ as a love interest to the point of pairing her up with Paul, they still won't truly get rid of her because they know how popular a character she is.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Tiamatty X-Men X-Pert from Now on Twitter Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Brony
#31055: Oct 18th 2023 at 3:45:16 AM

[up][up] Oooh, Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane. That series was great. Mc Keever and Miyazawa made a delightful pairing.

Marvel should bring Mc Keever back, he did a lot of great work for them, even if none of it really burned up the sales charts.

X-Men X-Pert, my blog where I talk about X-Men comics.
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#31056: Oct 18th 2023 at 4:19:19 AM

[up] He had another volume of Spidey Loves MJ ready to go, all about her, Peter and Johnny Storm, but Marvel went with a different and lamer approach without Sean and it tanked the title.

knightstorm Since: Feb, 2022
#31057: Oct 18th 2023 at 8:16:46 AM

Oh,Marvel.Your desperation is palpable. The post OMD continuity will always be viewed as a lame alternate timeline. The Sony games and movies have long surpassed you in the public consciousness.

Edited by knightstorm on Oct 18th 2023 at 8:18:06 AM

immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#31058: Oct 18th 2023 at 8:19:40 AM

[up][up][up][up]Yeah. They’ve basically been forced to confront the idea that they can’t get rid of MJ because every prior attempt to do so — sending her to California, putting her on a plane and crashing it, etc. — was a miserable failure. But they don’t want to use her for pretty much her primary purpose. So now they’re stuck having her hang around but constantly breaking her and Peter away from each other while clearly hoping it will cause fans to dislike her and be willing to let them get rid of her, which it literally never will.

It’s such a prime example of how unnecessary all of this is. At this point, forcing the square Spider-Man peg into this round “young and single” hole has become far more work than just keeping him married and aging would’ve.

Edited by immortaleditor on Oct 18th 2023 at 8:19:56 AM

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#31059: Oct 18th 2023 at 8:56:47 AM

The jackpot thing Is just lame. Why they didn't just go for a symbiote as her hero form is a bit sad as it would be way more interesting. And something multiple media have done.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#31060: Oct 18th 2023 at 8:56:51 AM

Just let Miles be the young spider man and Peter be the adult spidered man

Like how Clint is the old fuckup hawkeye and Kate is the hip young fuckup hawkeye

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TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#31061: Oct 18th 2023 at 9:00:14 AM

Spider-Editorial: "Okay, so Plan P for making the fans like single Peter didn't work, and we think it's because everybody hates Paul. So, for our next plan to cement unmarried Peter as the Peter and get everyone to stop demanding we undo our decision to have Peter sell his fan-favorite marriage to literally Satan, we're going to hook Mary Jane up with a character that we know the fans like, such as Shocker, Black Cat, or Batroc the Leaper."

Edited by TrashJack on Oct 18th 2023 at 12:02:56 PM

"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#31062: Oct 18th 2023 at 9:01:10 AM

[up][up][up][up]That first one sounds really funny. "Banish her to the realm of California, that oughta fix problems"

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#31063: Oct 18th 2023 at 9:04:19 AM

I’m not going to lie

MJ and Felicia do have a fun dynamic

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miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#31064: Oct 18th 2023 at 9:05:31 AM

Ironic that we know have both young Spiderman and could have married Spiderman with kids and be fine. Yet they steadfast refuse to do it.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#31065: Oct 18th 2023 at 9:06:08 AM

I'm actually okay with non-married Spider-Man. I just hate the way they did it.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#31066: Oct 18th 2023 at 9:06:50 AM

NGL, MJ with a symbiote on is pretty hot.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/download_3_2.png

Excluding the monster face of course.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#31067: Oct 18th 2023 at 9:12:48 AM

[up][up] I honestly don't know how anyone can be fine about non-married Spider-Man, especially with how he's been written over the years, it's demonstrated pretty definitively he's worthless without marriage

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#31068: Oct 18th 2023 at 9:16:37 AM

Probably because I remember married Spider-Man. I had a good decade of Peter married to MJ and how she was always leaving him, fighting with him over her soap opera career, being presumed dead (it happened a lot), being separated, or nagging him about why he was ignoring her emotional needs.

Virtually the entirety of the marriage was one giant slob of misery.

Much like, "Gwen Stacy was pure and good Better versus snarky rich snob Veronica", Peter and Mary Jane's marriage being a happy awesome couple is an invention of the fans.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Oct 18th 2023 at 9:17:04 AM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#31069: Oct 18th 2023 at 9:17:35 AM

I wonder if the mob princess character mentioned earlier would’ve been a popular love interest or not.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#31071: Oct 18th 2023 at 9:42:51 AM

I think people are really letting the Wells era cloud them on how a lot of Brand New Day stuff actually went.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#31072: Oct 18th 2023 at 9:46:22 AM

I feel like the Nick Spencer arc was also really hopeful and joyous.

and funny!

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#31073: Oct 18th 2023 at 9:51:55 AM

Maybe the first half

Things went rapidly downhill when the arc plot took over

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#31074: Oct 18th 2023 at 9:52:48 AM

The jackpot thing Is just lame. Why they didn't just go for a symbiote as her hero form is a bit sad as it would be way more interesting.

Would it? Symbiotes are kind of played out by this point.

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!

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