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Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM
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I saw a comment comparing her to Atom Eve because of those force fields she generated.
Given the jokes fans have made about Peter viewing MJ like a sister....
Actaully, it would be more appropriate to say MJ is Ben and Peter is Julie. Or is Peter Ben and MJ Julie? Or are they both Ben and Julie?
Wait, is Norman the Kevin of this story?
Edited by windleopard on Oct 12th 2023 at 12:17:42 PM
Yeah but I liked him as the rival better personally.
Each to their own. I also really enjoyed fighting him in the PS 2 game.
I remember being very confused on why he was suddenly helping Ben.
"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"Preview for Spine-Tingling Spider-Man#1
Oh cool It's Spider-Cide
Oh crud The fight lasts just the preview
So, I have a question about how the "removing sins" (or transferring sins) thing works. I suspect the answer is "because comics". I'll also note upfront that I'm not really a fan of Sin Eater getting supernatural powers in the first place.
At least as I understand it, removing "sins" is not quite the same thing as that earlier arc where characters were "Inverted". Or is it?
In the case of Norman, I was understanding it mean that the Goblin formula was completely purged from his body and that we are to understand him as "back to factory settings" and maybe gooder than he would otherwise be because of crushing guilt. Conversely, I "think" another person getting Norman's sins is equivalent to being injected with the Goblin formula. Right?
I "think" that Mr. Negative is a similar situation as Norman, as both have dissociative identity disorder. And therefore it makes sense that taking away his "sins"/powers would make him do a Heel–Face Turn, because there's a direct link between his Personality Powers and psychosis.
The case of Overdrive is weird to me because even though Negative gave him his powers, it doesn't make sense that Overdrive would be healed from an injury after getting his "sins" back because his powers don't give him any kind of super-durability or super-healing.
I also don't really get why Norman isn't immediately evil again after getting his sins back, since we are to understand that it's the Goblin formula that makes him evil(er).
Tl; dr, it kind of makes sense why Norman and Negative would be good guys without their "sins" because their powers and violent insanity are directly linked, but some of the other plot points don't make a lot of sense.
Edited by Hodor2 on Oct 12th 2023 at 9:08:49 AM
I find the whole Sin Spear thing really silly...the Sin-Eater's name wasn't supposed to be literal.
The Protomen enhanced my life.Thirded
The sin stuff is when Spencer’s run took a real downturn and I’ve heard nothing good about it being a continuing plot device
Forever liveblogging the AvengersThe sin eater's gun didn't remove the goblin formula from his body. We still see Norman have super strength and stuff, and in this run, Otto tries to inject Norman with Goblin Serum to make him evil, and it fails.
It might have gotten rid of the insanity he got from that magic D&D ritual in the 90's, but who's to say.
The whole plot point is just bizarre and ill-conceived to be honest. Nobody in the Spider-Office seems capable of wrapping their heads around how it’s supposed to work, which means the reader can’t either. I can’t wait til they finally get the hint and make Goblin evil again so that we can stop hearing the word sin every five seconds.
The Ben 10 comparisons earlier are extremely funny and depressingly appropriate to me, given that Ben 10 went through things EXTREMELY similar to One More Day and its aftermath. The hero’s (Ben/Peter) main love interest (Julie/MJ) being forced out of his life (Julie arbitrarily breaking up with Ben between Ultimate Alien and Omniverse/MJ and Peter making a deal with Mephisto) for the sake of making him more like his younger self (Omniverse trying to return to the vibe of the original run/BND trying to force Peter back into the college years or even earlier) or to try and prop up an irrelevant, long-disappeared character as his TRUE love (Kai/Gwen), all because of some out of touch executives who view the past takes on the series as the only “legitimate” ones.
On wider levels, Omniverse bears A LOT of resemblance to Brand New Day with its attempts to reverse the character development and aging in order to engage in a toxic form of Revisiting the Roots where anything that comes after the executive’s favored era is dismissed as inferior and unworthy, while also trying to introduce a ton of new characters and ideas that have a very hit and miss reception with the audience, like having most of the new villains be ill-received or ignored except one or two (Malware and Kyber/Mr. Negative and Overdrive) or shoving in new love interests that nobody is super impressed by and which disappear quickly.
Edited by immortaleditor on Oct 12th 2023 at 11:33:08 AM
Maybe wavering a bit off topic, but Batman/Scooby Doo and Wayne Family Adventures are the real main Batman books at DC right now, I’m not even joking and even most of the official writers agree with how much from the latter has been backported into the main continuity, such that its basically become the definitive take on the Batfamily’s dynamic. It’s insane how off the rails Chip Zdarsky’s run on the main book has gone, especially compared to how everything else at DC is doing really good or at very least passable right now. After the awesomeness of the opening arc with Failsafe, it just seems to have started losing its mind and the current arc feels like something Dan DiDio would’ve foisted on everyone back in the bad ol days.
It's funny how the current event has Selina claiming crime is gone since she stole from the rich and she's so effective that the Batfamily sides with her over Bruce.
And in the Joker series, there's an actual war going on in Gotham between hobo Joker and LA Joker.
But back to Spider-Man, how do people here feel about April? Mayday's clone sister?
"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"

And by that you mean...
"Cynicism is not realistic and tough. It's unrealistic and kind of cowardly because it means you don't have to try."