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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

  • Apart from the main Marvel Universe titles, Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man "What If?" stories, crossovers, guest appearances in other books, Alternate Universe tales and things like Marvel's manga adaptations are all on-topic here.
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Technically, Marvel's Infinity Comics (and their predecessors, Infinite Comics) are webcomics, not comic books, but it's fine to talk about their Spider-Man stories here.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#30676: Sep 26th 2023 at 4:36:29 AM

Legit didn't know this but then again Iron Fist was my least known NYC hero so I always assumed Collen Wing was his only love interest.

Tiamatty X-Men X-Pert from Now on Twitter Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Brony
#30677: Sep 26th 2023 at 5:19:02 AM

[up] Iron Fist and Colleen Wing were only briefly a couple. Misty really was his iconic love interest. They've been off-and-on since pretty early in Danny's history.

Colleen's never had a particularly major romance with anyone. She dated one of the Sons of the Tiger, but those guys are largely forgotten. It genuinely feels like the greatest love of her life is Misty.

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Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#30678: Sep 26th 2023 at 5:20:59 AM

So...

Are we sure Misty's baby wasn't another kidnap victim taken to Norman's secret orphanage?

FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#30679: Sep 26th 2023 at 7:42:14 AM

Norman is trying to raise an entire generation of evil offspring.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#30680: Sep 26th 2023 at 10:17:19 AM

Especially when you compare her to Spider-Gwen who despite being far more well more known, can't seem to hold an ongoing anywhere. Meanwhile Jess's last Spider-Woman ongoing went up to the 20s.

Spider-Gwen under Latour reached 34.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#30681: Sep 26th 2023 at 10:22:47 AM

Makes it sad that Danny and Misty haven't been together for a while. Misty has been currently dating Sam Wilson for a while now and Danny has been demoted to being in the background for the time being cause of the new Iron Fist.

[up] I mean currently, Gwen hasn't really had a series of that comparable length in a while now.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#30682: Sep 26th 2023 at 10:26:55 AM

I like how people hate paul and Peter's Badass Decay so much. Their rooting for Evil Peter to actually murder him.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#30683: Sep 26th 2023 at 10:53:26 AM

And the new Iron Fist has been demoted to the background because its Lin Lie and he is the man who constantly fails to catch on with an audience!

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Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#30684: Sep 26th 2023 at 11:16:17 AM

Marvel celebrate 50 years of the 'Giant-Size' Marvel books with a series of one-shots that begin with a Miles fronted 'Giant Size Spider-Man' by Cody Ziglar

Edited by Zarius on Sep 26th 2023 at 11:24:36 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#30685: Sep 26th 2023 at 4:26:52 PM

[up][up] If they wanted an Asian IF, they really should have just made them a new character instead of forcing Swordmaster in a blatant attempt to save his failing profile.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#30687: Sep 26th 2023 at 4:41:03 PM

Just a reminder that we have a general Marvel thread, so this one's supposed to stay on-topic with Spider-Man.

Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#30688: Sep 26th 2023 at 5:05:11 PM

[up][up][up] Pei was, like, right there. It baffles me they didn't make her the new Iron Fist. https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/pei_2.jpg

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#30689: Sep 26th 2023 at 6:22:21 PM

Okay I'm not familiar with Iron Fist or Shang-Chi but surely he would be a good character to succeed the title? He's already pretty well established, it feels like a no brainer like makin Carol Captain Marvel

Though I guess it would shrink their Asian rep compared to having an Asian Iron Fist and Shang Chi as an independent character.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#30690: Sep 26th 2023 at 6:24:51 PM

They have no connection though, its not really a Carol case cause she was always connected to the original Mar-Vell.

Shang-Chi meanwhile has no relation to Kun-Lun and has more of his own wheelhouse as a super spy martial artist than Iron Fist's more overt fantasy martial arts.

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 26th 2023 at 6:25:08 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#30691: Sep 26th 2023 at 6:25:17 PM

Well, that's a question for the other thread.

So, any villain you want to see have an arc, btw?

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#30692: Sep 26th 2023 at 11:12:40 PM

I do wonder if the current Spider-Man who laughs arc will bring back Green Goblin Norman.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Nofix from Over there Since: Jan, 2015
#30693: Sep 27th 2023 at 3:58:39 AM

Turns out he's just been Spidercide brainwashed and with amnesia this entire time.

Which one you ask? Both.

Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#30694: Sep 28th 2023 at 6:31:48 PM

Death of the venomverse #5 ended carnage won. He took out an alternate knull and became a king in black and then slaughtered more venom including Anne's Dylan and she then sent all the venom back to their universes but its implied some like kid venom are gonna go to 616. So now we wait for carnage try to take down Eddie and maybe reunite with cletus

Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#30695: Sep 28th 2023 at 8:21:48 PM

The King in Black powers shouldn't be transferable between universes, right?

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Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#30697: Sep 30th 2023 at 11:25:25 AM

[up] It's set all in flashback, Peter is giving Miles relationship advice and talks about Gwen. In one of the chapters, he gets annoying texts from Johnny Storm that causes him to skip George Stacy's funeral

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#30698: Sep 30th 2023 at 12:59:43 PM

My god, they just can't stop bringing up how important Gwen is to Peter.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#30699: Sep 30th 2023 at 1:07:19 PM

I mean, she is.

One of his biggest loves, and his failure to rescue her was a defining defeat.

They may have done an extremely poor job of convincing some people that Gwen was the girl Peter would have been with, but that's how it would have been if Stan had kept writing.

MJ is the one now, but back then, it was Gwen. Sure, she's been eclipsed in popularity by MJ (and her own alternate universe self), but she's super important to Peter's life.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#30700: Sep 30th 2023 at 1:15:31 PM

I think Gerry Conway himself noted that killing her would allow Marvel to pretend she was more important than she really was and make her the saint love interest who Peter could never really stop thinking and how MJ would always look inferior to her.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Sep 30th 2023 at 4:15:38 PM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"

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