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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

  • Apart from the main Marvel Universe titles, Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man "What If?" stories, crossovers, guest appearances in other books, Alternate Universe tales and things like Marvel's manga adaptations are all on-topic here.
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  • Characters and comics that originated in Spider-Man but are no longer directly connected to the spider-franchise (e.g. Punisher, Silver Sable) are not on-topic, unless you're discussing historical connections and crossovers. If in doubt, check before you write a long post. If this isn't the right place, there's a more general Marvel Comics thread which covers them.

Technically, Marvel's Infinity Comics (and their predecessors, Infinite Comics) are webcomics, not comic books, but it's fine to talk about their Spider-Man stories here.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#30526: Sep 20th 2023 at 12:07:27 AM

Welp Wells run is gonna make that reunion very awkward if Peter does brutally murder Paul as Jackpot!MJ declares she'll never forgive him

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#30527: Sep 20th 2023 at 6:47:08 AM

Where does she stand on brutally injuring?

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#30528: Sep 20th 2023 at 8:41:39 AM

[up][up] UGGGHH.sadsad

If Wells was mandated to drum up hype for MJ's Jackpot stint, he's done a good job of deflating that hype.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Sep 20th 2023 at 12:00:17 PM

Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#30529: Sep 20th 2023 at 9:10:51 AM

Jackpot is a pretty weird route to go power-wise. I know it's a play on her catchphrase, and I love the idea of MJ finally becoming a super herself, and I dug the contrast it made between her and Black Cat, but eh.

Her power being an actual slot machine is just weird. Should've made it simpler and just make her power be good luck to further contrast Black Cat's bad luck power.

#IceBearForPresident
FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#30530: Sep 20th 2023 at 9:12:28 AM

Probably around the same amount as bad as the Spidey who laughs promises to make MJ watch as he beats Paul to a pulp before killing him

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#30531: Sep 20th 2023 at 9:17:43 AM

They're not going to have Peter kill Paul, let's just nip that in the bud. MJ can be mad at him just the same if he puts him back in the hospital

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#30532: Sep 20th 2023 at 9:19:51 AM

[up][up] It’s petty but I’m having a hoot at you calling him the spider man that laughs because both concepts earn nothing but eye rolls from me

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#30533: Sep 20th 2023 at 9:27:17 AM

[up] Trust me, this whole run has been nothing BUT continuous eye-rolls. Like, even before the whole Spider-Man Who Laughs business, we were all just rolling our eyes because Wells seems hellbent at having Peter be at his most pathetic and spineless yet and MJ at her most witchiest yet.

Really, if we end up hearing about MJ's Jackpot getting a miniseries at NYCC 2023, I won't be surprised if the overall response is the social media equivalent of Chirping Crickets.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Sep 20th 2023 at 12:30:26 PM

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#30534: Sep 20th 2023 at 12:11:49 PM

My guess is that the Jackpot powers are meant to be something it's easy to write around. Since MJ is a supporting character, rather than the lead, the writers need to be able to push MJ to the sidelines whenever the story calls for Spider-Man and Spider-Man alone to deal with a problem. And since the Jackpot powers are effectively random, it's easy to do that by just saying, "Oops! Got a bad roll of luck this time!"

knightstorm Since: Feb, 2022
#30535: Sep 20th 2023 at 12:47:39 PM

Given Spidey's record during the current run...even the random Jackpot powers are probably more reliable...

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#30536: Sep 20th 2023 at 1:07:06 PM

So anyone remember reading rumors about Jonathan Hickman writing Spider-Man?

It's for a new Ultimate Spider-Man comic set in the new Ultimate Universe!

Art by Marco Checchetto! Coming January 2024! More details (like which Spidey is it?) to drop at NYCC 2023 during Marvel's Next Big Thing panel!

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Sep 20th 2023 at 4:08:24 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#30537: Sep 20th 2023 at 1:09:59 PM

Ultimate Spider-Man is one of the few things that Bendis did that people still like.

It'll be interesting to see how Hickman does with it.

One Strip! One Strip!
Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#30538: Sep 20th 2023 at 1:17:58 PM

Hurt the image?

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/mcdspid_ec023.jpg

THIS is the image the public has of "Spider-man romance". Not ladies man, dating whoes or the like.

I swear, plenty of the stuff I heard with the TAS films were "who is this Gwen and where is Mary Jane?"

knightstorm Since: Feb, 2022
#30539: Sep 20th 2023 at 1:18:50 PM

Finally some good Spider-Man comic related news! [up]Marvel was always fighting a losing battle with "young single loser Peter". Peter and MJ had already infiltrated the public consciousness years before OMD.

Edited by knightstorm on Sep 20th 2023 at 1:23:43 AM

Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#30540: Sep 20th 2023 at 1:21:52 PM

@Raven

Well that and the whole "I don't know what happens when I roll 3 skulls" means we're all just waiting until she gets her powers removed when she does.

It's got a built-in "This is only temporary" clause.

#IceBearForPresident
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#30541: Sep 20th 2023 at 1:35:40 PM

Well that and the whole "I don't know what happens when I roll 3 skulls" means we're all just waiting until she gets her powers removed when she does.

I mean, for all we know, the three skulls could make her melt and reveal her to be a clone.

Is that cruel and cop-out-ish? Probably, but then Wells has been doing nothing good with MJ and now I'm hearing a rumor that the supposed Jackpot mini might just be a one-shot.

As in one singular comic.

(Not sure if either or is true, but geez, the fact they haven't said anything about her Jackpot stint apart from a vague "Jackpot will return" speaks omnibuses by now.)

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Sep 20th 2023 at 4:36:16 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#30542: Sep 20th 2023 at 2:35:50 PM

Oh dang Hickman is writing Spider-Man, holy shit thats insane

I wonder whats the other titles

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#30543: Sep 20th 2023 at 2:53:17 PM

So I don't know if it was mentioned already, but Scans Daily posted some stuff from Uncanny Spiderman issue 1:

Here it is.

Hah. Not sure where this is in Peter's timeline, considering what's going on in his main book, but Kurt was born for this. I really hope we get to see him fighting Spiderman rogues too. Someone in the comments did mention he took on the Vulture during the issue.

One Strip! One Strip!
lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#30544: Sep 20th 2023 at 2:54:51 PM

If video games have taught me anything, three skulls is fine, but 2 character face panels and a bar is game over for the whole party.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#30545: Sep 20th 2023 at 2:55:24 PM

Is Hickman writing Ultimate Peter as continued by Bendis or is this a new one?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#30546: Sep 20th 2023 at 2:58:12 PM

Probably going to be a fresh start. That's my assumption.

But I don't know about Hickman so I can't say for sure. This is spinning out of the Ultimate Invasion arc, so I'd expect that to change up a lot of things before we get to this new series.

One Strip! One Strip!
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#30547: Sep 20th 2023 at 3:30:08 PM

I wonder how Hickman will fill Spider-Man with infographics

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knightstorm Since: Feb, 2022
#30548: Sep 20th 2023 at 3:32:13 PM

Hopefully Peter will be the star of the book. He REALLY needs a good comic right now.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#30549: Sep 20th 2023 at 7:41:43 PM

It just hit me that Hickman and Checchetto are the guys who made the "You Get It" story (the one where a Peter meets up with other Peter variants who appear to have it better, but it turned out to be a secret test of character) in Amazing Fantasy #1000!

What if that was a pilot for this take on Ultimate Spider-Man?

In any case, the art is going to kick all the butts! grin

Digitalhero93 Since: Jun, 2017
#30550: Sep 20th 2023 at 8:02:25 PM

So the first issue of Uncanny Spider-Man came out today, and so far it looks good. I did like the part where Spidey tries to help Nightcrawler by trying to talk to him. Spidey is his regular self, so the issue takes place either before or after what is currently happening over in Amazing Spider-Man. Vulture appears to have a suit upgrade, works for Orchis, and wants to be called Director Vulture. Vulture and Nightcrawler don't fight in this issue. This issue ends by revealing Silver Sable and her mercenaries have been hired to capture Nightcrawler.

Out of curiosity, can someone explain how Nightcrawler had looked more demonic? I don't really follow X-men that much, and it was a main plot point in the issue.


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