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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

  • Apart from the main Marvel Universe titles, Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man "What If?" stories, crossovers, guest appearances in other books, Alternate Universe tales and things like Marvel's manga adaptations are all on-topic here.
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Technically, Marvel's Infinity Comics (and their predecessors, Infinite Comics) are webcomics, not comic books, but it's fine to talk about their Spider-Man stories here.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#30476: Sep 18th 2023 at 5:16:50 AM

If Spider-Man does throw Norman off a bridge, Charles called it.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Sep 18th 2023 at 8:17:01 PM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#30478: Sep 18th 2023 at 7:20:28 AM

Norman advised Paul and MJ to take the tunnel out of the city, but Paul drives to the bridge where Peter ambushes them with Spider-Bombs and kidnaps Paul, taunting MJ to come after him

Dang it, Paul! Being useless against demons during Dark Web is one thing, but now he can't even follow simple driving advice? Talk about being Too Dumb to Live. At this point, not even Mysterio would want to disguise himself as Paul.

[up] Okay, now Marvel is actively asking people to spam the Peter/MJ marriage at them. Because 90% of the tweets are literally that. (The other 10% happens to be Wiccan/Hulkling.)

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Sep 18th 2023 at 10:29:22 AM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#30479: Sep 18th 2023 at 7:47:58 AM

The wedding was the only good part of trash event Empyre. Annnd was probably the only reason why trash event Empyre existed so it loses points

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Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#30480: Sep 18th 2023 at 9:38:49 AM

Cover and Solicit for December's Amazing Spider-Man#40

Edited by Zarius on Sep 18th 2023 at 9:39:11 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#30481: Sep 18th 2023 at 9:39:38 AM

Yeah, Spider-Goblin isn't going to last long it seems.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#30482: Sep 18th 2023 at 9:44:36 AM

Is the last-page twist that Spider-Goblin actually wants to run NY's organized crime himself?

Or Paul-Goblin, Aunt May-Goblin or whoever ends up with Norman's sins will step in...

(Have we had May as Carnage yet? Seems almost inevitable at this point)

reppuzan Since: Dec, 2014
#30483: Sep 18th 2023 at 9:45:16 AM

First previews of Spider-Boy are out. Am I strange to say that I'm cautiously optimsitic about this? The art is solid and the action looks good. Just combine it with a solid emotional underpinning of Bailey's need to belong after being erased from memory and record while fleshing out his character, and we should have a winner.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#30484: Sep 18th 2023 at 9:50:01 AM

Mary Jane didn't move on by choice, she was chained to the kids by Rabin's magic

I feel that is one of those Voodoo Shark explanations designed to make the plotline disposable.

"Mary Jane doesn't care about the dead kids because they were her 'chains' despite raising them for years."

Which, sure, the plot is one no one likes or wants to remember but it's silly. Why wouldn't Mary Jane care?

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#30485: Sep 18th 2023 at 10:05:55 AM

I've said it multiple times that MJ straight up left Peter romantically for Paul. To say the two aren't a couple or intimate is just straight up denial at this point.

HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#30486: Sep 18th 2023 at 10:10:36 AM

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Gutterball, huh. Another for Marvel's roster of spherical-headed villains.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#30487: Sep 18th 2023 at 10:12:13 AM

I've said it multiple times that MJ straight up left Peter romantically for Paul. To say the two aren't a couple or intimate is just straight up denial at this point.

Left seems generous. She was in another dimension and years passed.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#30488: Sep 18th 2023 at 10:18:18 AM

A dimension she trapped herself in against Peter's wishes and original plan to send her back because she trusted Paul more. Who she knew for about 5 minutes.

Then said Peter has "always been a mess" as one of the reasons why she's staying with Paul

Yeah no she just straight up left him for a guy guilty of genocide which she explains away as he feels really bad about it.

Edited by FKJ10 on Sep 18th 2023 at 10:18:43 AM

reppuzan Since: Dec, 2014
#30489: Sep 18th 2023 at 12:29:32 PM

[up][up]

I honestly like the goofiness of it. Spider-Man has been too dramatic lately, so having lighter fare just fits right now.

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#30490: Sep 18th 2023 at 12:40:24 PM

[up][up] Re-reading that issue, Peter was about to be murdered by Wayap, who was winning their battle and looked like he was choking Peter to death. It's very much written as MJ sending him back to save him.

FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#30491: Sep 18th 2023 at 11:54:41 PM

See this wouldn't hold more weight if Peter hasn't already died to spider totem nonsense with Morlun and just revived with organic webbing

Hell Kamala died and she just came back as a mutant.

What I'm saying is death has no meaning for high profile heroes like Peter.

So he should have just activated the teleported webbed it onto MJ's back and sent her home while Paul was telling him about boring rune lore.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#30492: Sep 18th 2023 at 11:58:26 PM

That's from a writing POV, not in-universe POV.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#30493: Sep 18th 2023 at 11:58:48 PM

MJ saying Peter had 'always been a mess' was a pay-off to a line set up at the end of Beyond before Rabin intruded, it was not MJ telling Peter he was such a mess that she couldn't be with him.

I'm not 'in denial', I'm observant. MJ and Paul have never been shown to be explicitly in love or happy around one another, the only time they've been happy is with the kids in the dimension, and the affection was all on them. Until a kiss or a declaration of love is made, all we have to rely on are recap page blunders and a compulsive liar in Nick Lowe. There is nothing there.

Edited by Zarius on Sep 18th 2023 at 11:59:06 AM

FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#30494: Sep 19th 2023 at 12:40:30 AM

Not a couple but they live together and share the same bed even after the fake kids got snapped out of existence.

To quote Linkara "THEY BANGED!"

Edited by FKJ10 on Sep 19th 2023 at 12:44:21 PM

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#30495: Sep 19th 2023 at 12:42:41 AM

I'm not 'in denial', I'm observant. MJ and Paul have never been shown to be explicitly in love or happy around one another, the only time they've been happy is with the kids in the dimension, and the affection was all on them. Until a kiss or a declaration of love is made, all we have to rely on are recap page blunders and a compulsive liar in Nick Lowe. There is nothing there.

May I ask what the story motivation for them not being a couple is? I assume just to diminish the whole Paul plot's relevance?

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#30496: Sep 19th 2023 at 12:58:04 AM

@Red Hunter 543 Peter has done enough Spider Totem nonsense that in universe he's fed up with it and goes

"Oh fuck not another Spiderverse"

In fact Peter was about to send MJ back before Paul was stopping him with spiel about Totems and runes before they got ambushed.

So Peter thoroughly fed up with totem bs should have just webbed this guys mouth shut and sent MJ home as he deals with another Spider Totem event that may kill him or erase him from existence.

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#30497: Sep 19th 2023 at 1:43:04 AM

I just watched a Youtube review of the issue. It got top marks from the critic, who believes it to be Wells' best issue, this guy had spent many videos roasting the entire run up to this point. Perhaps he just likes that Peter is getting stuff done regardless of his corruption?

A minor correction from earlier 'leaks' Peter capturing Paul and taunting MJ doesn't appear to happen, just Pete bombing their car and Kafka confronting Peter, with Kraven being dug out by Norman

FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#30498: Sep 19th 2023 at 2:35:13 AM

It's called villainous rizz aka The reason you see guys like Walter White, Madera, Thanos and Aizen have legions of fans.

People always flock to the guy that gets stuff done over the loser who is more moral.

Or to put it in Mike Tyson's words

"Everyone remembers the villain" and he was straight up quoting Apocalypse in post fight interviews.

Edited by FKJ10 on Sep 19th 2023 at 3:29:20 AM

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#30499: Sep 19th 2023 at 7:00:23 AM

Moments like this are why I'm enjoying Gage's Spider-Man Unlimited arc.

    Panel from # 1 
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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#30500: Sep 19th 2023 at 7:38:35 AM

Hah universe 8 is completely dropped at this point I guess

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