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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#30251: Aug 27th 2023 at 3:08:12 PM

WHY DID IT GIVE HIM EARS

I really hope that's just symbolism for the cover and they don't actually give him a goblin mask in the comic proper

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#30252: Aug 27th 2023 at 3:14:51 PM

Will Mj kick Peter's ass.

To continue how miserable he is. Like someone pointed out to me that he hasn't even been quiping and joking around like usually anywhere through this run.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#30253: Aug 27th 2023 at 3:16:56 PM

Taking a lot of the fun of Spider-Man, huh? Really makes it look like a lot of misery.

Wake me up at your own risk.
FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#30254: Aug 27th 2023 at 10:51:45 PM

[up][up][up] And miss out on the Spider-Goblin merchandising!?

Get real.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#30255: Aug 28th 2023 at 12:23:28 AM

If they really want to rub salt on the wound, they would give Norman a Spider-Goblin costume of his own.

But nah, they wouldn’t.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#30256: Aug 28th 2023 at 1:10:21 AM

Just saw a comics retailer newsletter previewing ASM#35 and it tries reassuring readers that there is "still hope" despite the overwhelming negative feedback.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#30257: Aug 28th 2023 at 1:50:20 AM

I’m getting Secret Empire vibes with this.

Not too coincidentally, it also has a story about a hero turning bad guy. Most people don’t think fondly of that aside from the foregone conclusions like Darth Vader.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#30258: Aug 28th 2023 at 8:16:34 AM

[up][up] To be clear, this isn't an official statement by Marvel, but by Comic Book News.

But man, it still reeks of desperation of the "please like our book where our superhero just keeps getting his butt handed to him for really dumb reasons! Please please PLEASE!" variety.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Aug 28th 2023 at 11:16:45 AM

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#30259: Aug 28th 2023 at 8:47:32 AM

[up] And it doesn't say the negatives are "overwhelming", either. It's downbeat enough as it is, it doesn't need the exaggeration.

Edited by Mrph1 on Aug 28th 2023 at 4:47:48 PM

knightstorm Since: Feb, 2022
#30260: Aug 28th 2023 at 8:48:59 AM

There's nothing to realistically "hope" for anymore with ASM. Anything short of the current editorial being shown the door...and the "single loser" edict going with them. Otherwise it will just be more of the same endless misery we've been getting.

Edited by knightstorm on Aug 28th 2023 at 9:03:26 AM

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#30261: Aug 28th 2023 at 9:27:28 AM

In the meantime, some early praise is coming in for Ryan Stegman's short Spidey story for Marvel Age#1000 on twitter

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#30262: Aug 28th 2023 at 9:41:39 AM

Otherwise it will just be more of the same endless misery we've been getting.

Or as Implicitly Pretentious described it as, "derivative dead ends." (Geez, that line is going to live rent-free in my head whenever I think of this run...)

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#30264: Aug 28th 2023 at 10:20:25 AM

Like I said, all I want is a happy long-term (comics wise) Felicia and Peter relationship.

Is that so wrong?

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#30265: Aug 28th 2023 at 10:23:05 AM

Sadly, you were doomed the moment you wanted Spider Man to be in any kind of long term relationship.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#30266: Aug 28th 2023 at 11:06:06 AM

The good news is they haven't found an excuse to literally throw either of Peter's current love interests off a bridge.

One Strip! One Strip!
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#30267: Aug 28th 2023 at 11:06:23 AM

Who is or are his current love interests?

Edited by Bocaj on Aug 28th 2023 at 2:06:32 PM

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#30268: Aug 28th 2023 at 11:07:15 AM

MJ and Felicia.

Mainly MJ, but Black Cat is still pretty popular.

One Strip! One Strip!
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#30269: Aug 28th 2023 at 11:08:01 AM

[up][up][up] You totally know that when Spider-Goblin fights MJ, he’s going to say “I’ve hit the Jackpot.”

Edited by RedHunter543 on Aug 29th 2023 at 2:08:11 AM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#30270: Aug 28th 2023 at 11:23:15 AM

[up] I suspect Marvel will be very wary of that after the Hank Pym saga.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#30271: Aug 28th 2023 at 11:32:06 AM

I mean, Spider-Man did back hand his pregnant wife.

There is no low they won’t go to try to keep Peter and MJ apart.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#30272: Aug 28th 2023 at 11:41:41 AM

I doubt well get that. With how weirdly pathetic Peter has been through this run. Feel she'll kick his ass instead.

Also uh I don't like that costume. Feel she should have a variation of carnage like other media if they were going to go with this.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#30273: Aug 28th 2023 at 12:44:14 PM

[up][up] True but again Clone Saga which everyone agreed was horrible. So they blanked Spidey going Ike Turner on MJ out of their minds.

Speaking of which read "The Real Clone Saga mini series" and all I have to say is: Why wasn't this the original one?

Seriously trimmed all the unnecessary fat.

Got rid of the Norman faked his death twist.

Kept Mayday alive and Peter can retire as a family man.

Gave a satisfying answer to the whose the Clone nonsense. It doesn't matter they're both individuals with their own lives to live.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#30274: Aug 28th 2023 at 12:51:16 PM

The editor in chief, Bob Harris disliked Harry Osborn and vetoed him coming back to life. So the writers went with Norman Osborn as the villain twist.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#30275: Aug 28th 2023 at 12:58:41 PM

What was Harris' problem with Harry specifically?


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