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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

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#30201: Aug 25th 2023 at 2:06:42 PM

I did see someone note we got terrible luck with this run.

Like spiderman is in a huge upswing in popularity. Insomaniac, spiderverse and no way home. That meant any run would have had an uptake in sales.

(Well tbf that and Bile Fascination. Marvel seems to be setting up spiderman hate read in to keep readers engaged)

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
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#30202: Aug 25th 2023 at 2:14:47 PM

#30198 - given that goblin spiders are actually a real thing, I'd be surprised if they didn't use that.

Unless they already have elsewhere?

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#30203: Aug 25th 2023 at 2:15:26 PM

Hate me if you want, but the Spider-Goblin story line sounds so awful yet oddly intriguing I might buy some issues out of curiosity.

It does help I have a soft spot for Goblins in mythology.

I think it would be unironically interesting to have an arc where Spider-Man turns evil and a villain has to play hero to stop him. But when it’s part of the most controversial run in recent memory, it feels malicious and clickbait.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Aug 25th 2023 at 5:17:00 PM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Nofix from Over there Since: Jan, 2015
#30204: Aug 25th 2023 at 3:28:29 PM

I'd rather have someone like Frank Castle have to play the part of unwilling anti-hero playing hero trying to save unwilling hero-turned-villain.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#30205: Aug 25th 2023 at 3:46:42 PM

Works better if it’s from the hero’s rogues gallery. Punisher has long since graduated.

Like if we were going for a lighthearted tone, I’d pick Mysterio to be the villain forced to play hero to save evil Spider-Man.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Aug 25th 2023 at 6:47:39 PM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
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#30206: Aug 25th 2023 at 3:47:54 PM

I could see Otto in that role, though. Or some past versions of Kraven.

Edited by Mrph1 on Aug 25th 2023 at 11:48:08 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#30207: Aug 25th 2023 at 3:50:16 PM

I guess Venom could also be an option.

There’s a lot of irony in that situation.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Aug 25th 2023 at 6:50:36 PM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
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#30208: Aug 25th 2023 at 3:52:10 PM

> So anyone have shitty names for our upcoming Spider-Goblin?

Achanid

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Nofix from Over there Since: Jan, 2015
#30209: Aug 25th 2023 at 3:56:00 PM

Speaking of Peter's rogue gallery: If they somehow use this as a reason to make Ben Reilly good again, and have him save Peter, then all is forgiven.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#30210: Aug 25th 2023 at 4:01:52 PM

I’m guessing this arc will have Norman going back to the dark side.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
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#30211: Aug 25th 2023 at 4:06:54 PM

Ben seems to be largely off-limits for the new Dark X-Men series, despite its connection to Madelyne and Limbo, and I'm guessing there's a reason why...

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#30212: Aug 25th 2023 at 11:18:39 PM

It appears Wells confirmed at a convention Friday that his run is ending at ASM#60, he also said he'd like to move on to either Electra or Wolverine next.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#30213: Aug 25th 2023 at 11:22:51 PM

Wait, what issue are we on again?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#30215: Aug 25th 2023 at 11:27:35 PM

Well MAYBE Wells can pull out a home run.

Not expecting it though. At best maybe the Spider-Goblin arc can entertain me in a so bad it’s good way.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#30216: Aug 26th 2023 at 2:26:38 AM

You know @Redhunter 53 you make a good point. Current 616 I'd basically the bad guy won with Mephisto.

As the only one aware of his changes are Dr Strange (he's dead at the moment) and Deadpool.

If Marvel really wanted to they could have showed real ramifications to making a deal with Satan. A butterfly effect of sheer catastrophe because Peter gave up one specific day in his life.

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#30217: Aug 26th 2023 at 2:31:46 AM

[up] Well, Peter's life isn't doing so great right now...

The Protomen enhanced my life.
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#30218: Aug 26th 2023 at 2:37:04 AM

On the other hand, look how much fun the Internet got out of Symbiote Peter...

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#30219: Aug 26th 2023 at 2:39:15 AM

Doctor Strange is definitely alive again. And I think Mephisto is now caged in the other-dimensional God Quarry, with an Avengers Alliance of Alternates keeping an eye on him.

So if they're ever looking for a good in-universe moment to fix things...

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#30220: Aug 26th 2023 at 2:45:36 AM

Didn't Strange learn everything about OMD from Mephisto at the end of Spencer's run? He's teamed a few times with Peter since then and hasn't mentioned this stuff once to him, or the bet he made with Mephisto to help free Harry's soul.

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#30221: Aug 26th 2023 at 2:54:26 AM

At this point I'd settle for Peter and MJ finding out what happened, cutting any remaining ties to Mephisto (admit it, MJ punching Mephisto in the face is a great image, isn't it? ) and regaining some vague memories of another branch of time.

No rollback that invalidates everything since then. No crystal clear set of memories that derails their current lives. But enough that they know they had that marriage once, and could possibly build it again.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#30222: Aug 26th 2023 at 4:58:22 AM

Same.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#30223: Aug 26th 2023 at 5:33:52 AM

I remember Brevoort actually discussed Peter and MJ remembering again to one fan...the reason they don't just do that is that if they did, they would just get married again because that's how in love with one another they are.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#30224: Aug 26th 2023 at 5:34:38 AM

[up]Yeah, well don't write it that way,

Also, do these people assume marriage is magical or something? They've already lived together and had a child.

How is this different?

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Aug 26th 2023 at 5:35:10 AM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#30225: Aug 26th 2023 at 5:35:32 AM

See, I just pretend RYV Peter is the main one. Sure the original story could have used a better villain than Regent, but it’s overall a great continuation.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"

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