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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#29701: Aug 11th 2023 at 1:22:39 AM

[up] And Peter seems a much healthier match than Matt's usual partners. Yes, even the current version of Peter. (Sorry, Elektra)

If they ever did a What If...? or alternate universe setting with those two as happy, well-adjusted husbands I suspect fandom would love it. Even if it was just them being domestic and soppy. No, wait, especially if it was domestic and soppy.

Antiyonder (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#29702: Aug 11th 2023 at 1:37:30 AM

We had that with Spider-Girl and The Amazing Spider-Man Renew Your Vows.

Like I said before, part of the problem often is that readers who have some actual nostalgia with flagship titles are often unwilling to part with a decline title to try something else even an alternate continuity line or licensed title.

Archie Mega Man for example was the perfect opposite to a standard badDC New 52 title.

Able to have serious moments without being at the cost of joy, and the lead character well being a hero even in the two crossovers he was in.[lol]

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#29703: Aug 11th 2023 at 3:38:45 AM

Wait. Both Peter and Matt dated Felicia. If they were to hook up, would that make Felicia the Mako of this equation?tongue

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#29705: Aug 11th 2023 at 8:23:32 AM

Man, I just re-read go down swinging, and all of Harry's scenes are painful to see after Nick Spencer's run.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#29706: Aug 11th 2023 at 8:52:55 AM

Like I said before just should have just kept him dead.

I swear Harry has died more times than Cyclops.

Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#29707: Aug 11th 2023 at 9:01:52 AM

I mean, once they retconned Norman to have survived his first death, there's no reason Harry shouldn't have either. Even post Harry clone retcon, we have Phil Urich popping out of his grave to torment Norman, so they've been pretty consistent on Goblins being immortal for some reason.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#29708: Aug 11th 2023 at 9:03:29 AM

[up][up] Like Go Down Swinging actually made him a compelling character IMO after years of not doing anything good with him after an unwanted resurrection.

Then Nick Spencer went NOPE so he could retcon Sins Past.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#29709: Aug 11th 2023 at 9:12:23 AM

Fair trade

Though we wouldn't need to do that if

A) Quesada didn't interfere with JMS' original Sins Past story with Peter as the father.

B) Quesada didn't throw out JMS' original OMD plan where Sins Past was retconned with Gwen and Harry revived.

So as usual I blame Quesada.

Edited by FKJ10 on Aug 11th 2023 at 9:12:45 AM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#29710: Aug 11th 2023 at 9:17:06 AM

I don’t see how it was essential to have Harry dead, clone, and computer to retcon sins past

That was a decision. To throw away post OMD Harry

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FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#29711: Aug 11th 2023 at 9:21:37 AM

Simple retcon an extremely convoluted dumb plot (Sins Past) with another extremely convoluted dumb plot but add an hilarious punchline (Mephisto Computer Harry)

Mephisto in a wig taking devious backshots from Norman.

Edited by FKJ10 on Aug 11th 2023 at 9:22:43 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#29712: Aug 11th 2023 at 9:21:45 AM

It's a shame because they brought back Harry to recapture those days of Peter and his friends hanging around from the Romita-Lee era, so not doing anything with him on that front. Heck Go Down Swinging actually brought back that angle of an abuse victim finally finding the courage to tell his abuser to fuck off and then turns out Harry was being tortured in hell all this time.

Does Peter have any friends outside of his superhero work?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#29713: Aug 11th 2023 at 9:23:47 AM

In the current run, he only really hangs out with Randy.

In Spencer's run, he had grad school friends, but he stopped going to grad school halfway through that book.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#29714: Aug 11th 2023 at 9:24:22 AM

Jonah is his best friend now

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#29715: Aug 11th 2023 at 9:25:08 AM

@FKJ: Wasn't JMS' OMD plan even worse than Quesada's, though? Like, "thrown out everything since the 70s" worse?

Edited by HamburgerTime on Aug 11th 2023 at 11:25:23 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#29716: Aug 11th 2023 at 9:25:16 AM

Yeah, but like he also knows Peter is Spider-Man.

Shouldn't he have some friends who like him for being Peter or something? Someone he can shoot the breeze with unrelated to super hero work.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#29717: Aug 11th 2023 at 9:25:36 AM

… Boomerang?

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#29718: Aug 11th 2023 at 9:26:23 AM

[up][up][up] His plan was for Harry to go into rehab, meaning he got help, Norman never went insane, and Gwen didn't die.

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Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#29719: Aug 11th 2023 at 9:26:25 AM

Boomerang died in the crossfires of Sinister War, rest his soul.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#29720: Aug 11th 2023 at 9:28:55 AM

He’s definitely in hell

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FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#29721: Aug 11th 2023 at 9:30:41 AM

Not anymore Marvel decided his supporting cast are better off being superheroes/villains. Probably because they can't make enough new hero characters as popular as the Spidey side characters.

Ned Leeds (Because of editorial spite)

Gwen Stacy now Spider Gwen in Earth 65 and her many clones

Flash Thompson Agent Venom/Anti Venom

Normie's got a symbiote

MJ because Zeb Wells

Then we got the what ifs of Betty Brant, JJ, Aunt May and Uncle Ben becoming Spider-Man.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#29722: Aug 11th 2023 at 9:36:40 AM

I did enjoy that one story where Harry used the Green Goblin gear to take the fight to Macendale Hobgoblin, even Spidey helped out.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#29723: Aug 11th 2023 at 9:42:55 AM

I have that one.

Macendale lost that so badly.

Another in the list of reasons why Kingsley came out of hiding to kill that idiot.

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Nofix from Over there Since: Jan, 2015
#29724: Aug 11th 2023 at 4:39:19 PM

This has nothing to do with anything, but for a while now I wondered if Peter could rig up a small flamethrower to his suit, activated by moving his fingers in a slightly different way than how he shoots webs. So the enemy is expecting web, and gets a face full of fire.

Mostly as an anti-Symbiote weapon. Probably be too dangerous to carry around, let alone use, for normal hero activities.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#29725: Aug 11th 2023 at 4:41:05 PM

peter using flamethrowers instead of webshooters would be a really weird change

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