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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

Antiyonder (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#29601: Aug 8th 2023 at 9:25:21 PM

I like I know people were joking but are marvel trying to get sell this run through hate views. It seems like they go out of their way to do aggrevating stuff.

Right, so minimize the attention for the crap.cool

Anyway, besides the much better stuff outside of the character (Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, Darkwing Duck, Sonic the Hedgehog and Gargoyles), we actually have good Spider-Man material with the aforementioned Secret Wars mini.😁

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#29602: Aug 8th 2023 at 9:28:32 PM

The only mainstream Spider-Man stuff that I unironically liked was Gold Goblin and some of the side stories in Spider-Verse.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
reppuzan Since: Dec, 2014
#29603: Aug 8th 2023 at 9:39:05 PM

[up]

Red Goblin is also solid. Normie is a pretty good protagonist. The pacing got thrown off by the latest Symbiote event though.

Edited by reppuzan on Aug 8th 2023 at 9:39:29 AM

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#29604: Aug 8th 2023 at 11:32:50 PM

Hmm, be on the look out this week for Kinky Clone sex between Kraven and Kafka

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#29605: Aug 8th 2023 at 11:42:35 PM

WHAT

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Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#29606: Aug 9th 2023 at 12:07:36 AM

[up] Yep, It begins as a fight between them, one thing leads to another and Kraven wakes up in bed beside her

Here's also some more context to the hows and whys of the Peter and Felicia break up

Felicia crashes the Bachelorette party for Janice, she has a talk with the Beetle and Janice reveals that Randy tries to convince her to change her ways, which shows he really cares about her. Felicia then begins to doubt her own relationship with Peter because he doesn't work towards the goal of redeeming her

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#29607: Aug 9th 2023 at 12:15:48 AM

That's pretty dumb.

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Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#29608: Aug 9th 2023 at 12:19:08 AM

Wedding also: Is a non-event, as after Tombstone gets taken out, it's called off. Janice and Randy however are still together I believe, but this emergency comes first.

Tiamatty X-Men X-Pert from Now on Twitter Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Brony
#29609: Aug 9th 2023 at 12:35:26 AM

[up][up][up] That doesn't even make sense. Beetle is a villain who's fine with hurting people. Felicia regularly engages in superheroics, rarely even steals any more, and when she does thief it up, she's very careful not to hurt anyone.

Felicia doesn't need to be "redeemed." That's just nonsense.

Edited by Tiamatty on Aug 9th 2023 at 3:35:54 PM

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#29610: Aug 9th 2023 at 1:39:06 AM

Plus doesn't this whole thing kinda ignore that Black Cat actually moved from being a supervillain mob boss?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#29611: Aug 9th 2023 at 3:08:05 AM

Also, realistically, why would Peter care that she steals stuff? She only robs from rich people, that's not even morally bad

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#29612: Aug 9th 2023 at 3:13:51 AM

sad

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#29613: Aug 9th 2023 at 4:52:45 AM

Some new details on Slott's big Spider-Boy villain Madame Monstrosity

She's the mother of the Stillwell siblings, Farley (creator of Scorpion), Harlan, (creator of Human Fly), and Shannon (from Slott's ASM run), the latter of whom she talks to in this issue. Also, her research wound up being co-opted without permission by the likes of Curt Connors, Michael Morbius, and those who worked with The Rhino, tying all the way back to thier origins. She looks at a newspaper photo of Spider-Boy and recognises that someone used her research to create him

Edited by Zarius on Aug 9th 2023 at 4:59:24 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#29614: Aug 9th 2023 at 4:55:47 AM

She sounds like she suffers from being inserted into the backstories of established characters syndrome that Dan Slott does a LOT.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#29615: Aug 9th 2023 at 5:35:23 AM

I think the stilwell siblings thing Is okay. But The link to Lizard and It's Morbin time is excessive imo

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#29616: Aug 9th 2023 at 5:55:19 AM

"They stole my work!"

Me: [An Academic] Did you publish it in an academic journal?

"...yes?"

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#29617: Aug 9th 2023 at 7:18:18 AM

Here's how Peter's reunion and conversation with Kamala went

After filling in the blanks n Kamala's memory (she remembers nothing about her death), Peter reveals his identity to her again. Kamala fangirls over it. Peter actually makes a joke about "The Kid Who Collects Spider-Man" saying he usually reserves this moment for those with incurable diseases

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#29618: Aug 9th 2023 at 7:19:07 AM

[up] Don't jinx it, Pete! :P

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Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#29619: Aug 9th 2023 at 7:38:59 AM

Just thinking...

I am actually enjoying Misery and Red Goblin a lot... but are we now at the point where the Osborn dynasty rivals the X-Men's Summers family for clones, complexity and superpowers?

Three generations of goblins. And also of symbiotes.

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#29620: Aug 9th 2023 at 7:41:58 AM

Have we reached a bizzare Point where the venom books are now superior to the Peter Parker books. Guess Eddie won In the end.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#29621: Aug 9th 2023 at 8:19:51 AM

We've reached a point where Norman Osborn has more of a dynasty than Peter.

Thanks Marvel.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#29622: Aug 9th 2023 at 8:22:43 AM

at least Norman Osborn is allowed to grow up

unlike 'Peter parker pan'

Edited by Ultimatum on Aug 9th 2023 at 4:22:59 PM

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#29623: Aug 9th 2023 at 8:28:57 AM

Wedding also: Is a non-event, as after Tombstone gets taken out, it's called off.

Yup, this makes me want to summon Candle Jack because we've grown beyond the point of calling this ASM run ridiculous? Yeah, I actually agree.

Oh, there you are. So, Candle Jack, how does this work? Like, I call your name, you tie me up and Eh, maybe I'll keep you around for like 10 minutes or something. Reading about ASM in social media is killing my buzz, if I'm honest.

So it's gotten to you, too? Geez, you know a comic book is bad when it makes Candle Freaking Jack Feel blue? Too true. And I really liked the previous run.

We all did! Actually, Candle Jack? Can you tie up Zeb Wells? Only if he actually says my name. And man, do I want him to say it already...

Well, guys. See you in 10 minutes. Gonna hang with Old CJ for a while. Ehhhh, I don't know you well enough for you to call me "Old CJ".

Fair enough, Candle Jack. That said, I don't think I met anyone who called my name voluntarily, so...thanks, Zeb. I guess.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Aug 9th 2023 at 11:29:35 AM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#29624: Aug 9th 2023 at 9:02:52 AM

Also, realistically, why would Peter care that she steals stuff? She only robs from rich people, that's not even morally bad

All superheroes have this thing sometimes where all crime is equally bad and with Peter it’s especially bad because any crime could lead to his uncle being shot if ignored

So Peter has a problem with Felicia stealing from people who definitely made their money incredibly immorally because it’s nigh impossible to be super duper rich without blood on your hands but she also makes him horny so he mostly just whines about it and half-heartedly tries to stop her

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Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#29625: Aug 9th 2023 at 9:28:58 AM

There's a nice article about John Romita snr in ASM today, the examples they use of his work in the tributes are the wedding annual and the newspaper strip.


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