TVTropes Now available in the app store!
Open

Follow TV Tropes

Following

Spider-Man General Discussion

Go To

This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

  • Apart from the main Marvel Universe titles, Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man "What If?" stories, crossovers, guest appearances in other books, Alternate Universe tales and things like Marvel's manga adaptations are all on-topic here.
  • Spider-Man 'family' books are on-topic (as are their own crossovers, guest appearances etc.) - e.g. Spider-Man 2099, Miles Morales, Spider-Woman, Silk, Spider-Gwen, Venom, Carnage, Black Cat, Red Goblin and Spider-Verse.
  • Characters and comics that originated in Spider-Man but are no longer directly connected to the spider-franchise (e.g. Punisher, Silver Sable) are not on-topic, unless you're discussing historical connections and crossovers. If in doubt, check before you write a long post. If this isn't the right place, there's a more general Marvel Comics thread which covers them.

Technically, Marvel's Infinity Comics (and their predecessors, Infinite Comics) are webcomics, not comic books, but it's fine to talk about their Spider-Man stories here.

Discussions that are only about Spider-Man adaptations in other media (films, video games etc.) are off-topic, but discussing the differences between the adaptations and the original comics is fine - as long as spoilers for the adaptations are tagged.

Please follow the spoiler policy rules - tag spoilers for the latest issues, for any previews or content leaks, and for off-topic comics. When including spoiler tags, try to write so that tropers can make an informed decision before viewing them (e.g. which series and issue will they spoil?).

     Original Thread OP 
Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#29551: Aug 7th 2023 at 12:22:48 PM

"also he's really large and wears a labcoat for some reason"

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#29552: Aug 7th 2023 at 9:00:37 PM

Early Kingpin was basically more of a mob boss Bond villain like Blofeld rather than the Magnificent Bastard crime boss that we all know and love under Frank Miller.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#29553: Aug 7th 2023 at 9:43:04 PM

I dunno, I really enjoyed Kingpin versus Spider-Man with stories involving Atlantean magic tablets.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#29554: Aug 7th 2023 at 9:59:20 PM

Ehhh, decent fare IMO, but I personally felt Kingpin vs Spidey was at it's best in Ultimate Spider-Man.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#29555: Aug 7th 2023 at 10:05:48 PM

Yeah, Kingpin became a much more grounded character when he swapped over to daredevil.

I do think that when he's in a Spidey book, they tend to bring out his more fantastical elements, though. The Spencer run had him hire Boomerang to do a mystic ritual to revive his son.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#29556: Aug 7th 2023 at 10:08:18 PM

I think that's part of why Kingpin doesn't appeal to me personally as much as Doc Ock or Green Goblin, since I'm just not fond of magical stuff in my Spider-Man comic. But Kingpin pretending to be friends with Spider-Man is funny AF.

I really don't like Mephisto being the power behind Norman, or the Spider-Totem shit, or the web of destiny.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#29557: Aug 7th 2023 at 10:53:02 PM

OK, some genuine leaks for ASM#31 are now online

Good news is that Felicia doesn't turn bad guy, however She does break up with Peter as she realizes they've just been going through all kinds of motions and that Peter's more a project to her than a romantic partner, so they break it off

The other back-up stories include Doc Ock trying to work out an equation and realizing he solved it but now can't remember how, and a vision of Superior appears saying he knows the answer and Ock resolves to resume his Spider-Man life, the Mary Jane one covers how MJ and Paul are dealing with the kids MJ and Paul are shown in bed together, but they're sleeping apart from one another, they look miserable, other than a bit of hand holding there's nothing really that romantic going on and MJ's thoughts in bed are all about the kids. Felicia is the one to give MJ her costume, and she's convinced to become a hero by both Felicia and thoughts about Peter

There's also a Spider-Boy back up, but it's largely to introduce one of his new villains and then there's the Reign 2 tease.

FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#29558: Aug 7th 2023 at 11:38:17 PM

So current Spidey is still crap.

Have Morlun and 616!Norman ever interacted.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#29559: Aug 7th 2023 at 11:46:21 PM

BOO! As a Felicia/Petey fan, BOO!

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#29560: Aug 8th 2023 at 1:15:57 AM

The reasoning was also asinine Black Cat breaks things off....because he's no longer asking her to stop stealing and she's not trying to corrupt him anymore.

Basically our romance is no longer toxic so let's break up

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#29561: Aug 8th 2023 at 1:26:08 AM

[up][up] AGREED

This run can't do anything right ffs

Edited by Saiga on Aug 8th 2023 at 1:26:20 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#29563: Aug 8th 2023 at 4:22:39 AM

[up][up][up] Lol whut?

Uggh, I'm so over superheroes dating morally ambiguous cat themed burglars.

From now on, Peter should look into dating Harry.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#29564: Aug 8th 2023 at 4:32:17 AM

> I really don't like Mephisto being the power behind Norman, or the Spider-Totem shit, or the web of destiny.

as long as Mephisto does'nt show up in the spiderman movies we're good,its a pity because Mephisto is a cool demon,it's just they keep writing him poorly!

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#29565: Aug 8th 2023 at 4:39:40 AM

They really are gonna go with Ock wanting to be Superior again because He can't do math

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#29566: Aug 8th 2023 at 8:13:00 AM

[up] ...I got nothing. I don't even know how to respond to that.

This run can't do anything right ffs

You took the words right out of my mouth. It's all just baffling.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#29567: Aug 8th 2023 at 8:55:01 AM

Isn’t Harry dead or a clone or a computer now?

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#29569: Aug 8th 2023 at 8:57:31 AM

Dammit Harry pick a lane

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#29570: Aug 8th 2023 at 9:00:22 AM

The Brand New Day Harry was revealed to be a clone in Spencer's run, and then he dies at the end.

We see Liz and Stanley sometimes, they're both in the Red Goblin book currently releasing, but that's all that's come from it. They don't bring it up at all in the Wells run.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#29571: Aug 8th 2023 at 9:14:21 AM

Okay so he’s dead, dead, or a computer

Narrows down Peter’s options. He’s gonna have to get into computer dating

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#29572: Aug 8th 2023 at 9:49:38 AM

Is spiderman reign that bad ? I thought outside the radioactive sperm its considered just average.

Like calling it the most infamous spiderman story is a stretch. When like one more day exists.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#29573: Aug 8th 2023 at 9:57:21 AM

It tries to be DKR but fails because Kraven's Last Hunt spelled out why Spider-Man doesn't work like that.

MJ's cancer being the cause of his spider jizz turned a forgettable graphic novel into a meme worthy story.

Also Reign Spider-Man died in the original Spiderverse. Killed by Morlun using MJ's tombstone as a bludgeon.

So shows how much "respect" that story had until now Marvel editorial realizes they can make a quick buck with hate views.

Personally if they were gonna bring back a Spider-Man unceremoniously Killed in Spiderverse I would have preferred assassin Spidey.

Edited by FKJ10 on Aug 8th 2023 at 9:57:46 AM

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#29574: Aug 8th 2023 at 9:58:32 AM

In my view, Felicia was the least aggravating thing in this run.

[up][up]Even if you don't count One More Day, there's the Clone Saga and arguably Maximum Carnage. Even Superior Spider-Man would count depending on who you ask. Reign is at least an obscure non-canon story that barely gets brought up by fans.

Edited by windleopard on Aug 8th 2023 at 5:58:47 PM

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#29575: Aug 8th 2023 at 10:01:13 AM

Yeah, but Marvel would rather desperately pretend that One More Day wasn't universally hated with fans unanimously wanting it undone.

Disney100 Marathon | DreamWorks Marathon

Total posts: 38,961
Top