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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

  • Apart from the main Marvel Universe titles, Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man "What If?" stories, crossovers, guest appearances in other books, Alternate Universe tales and things like Marvel's manga adaptations are all on-topic here.
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Technically, Marvel's Infinity Comics (and their predecessors, Infinite Comics) are webcomics, not comic books, but it's fine to talk about their Spider-Man stories here.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#29377: Aug 4th 2023 at 6:22:38 AM

Speaking of Spider-Man's love interests, I recently watched a youtube video that argued that Sophia 'Chat' Sanduval from Marvel Adventures Spider-Man (Earth-20051 according to the Marvel wiki) was the best. I'd never heard of her but it was quite interesting.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#29378: Aug 4th 2023 at 6:51:15 AM

Peter's been in a coma since the beyond since the beyond arc and when he wakes up Ben Reiley is still a hero.

Ben: Paul, Rabin, fake kids and Ms. Marvel dead? Pete I think you hit your head harder than we thought man.

Peter: And you turned evil and called yourself Chasm!

Ben: PFFFFFFT! Chasm? Chasm? Okay, now I really know you hit your head harder than we thought! Because Pete, I'm not planning on it at all, but if I was ever going to go bad again, I'm pretty sure I'd be calling myself something cooler than "Chasm"!

Peter: Okay, like what?

Ben: ...Good question. Let me get back to you on that one.

Peter: Preferably when you don't go bad again?

Ben: ...Yeah, that'd be smart.

Nofix from Over there Since: Jan, 2015
#29379: Aug 4th 2023 at 6:52:38 AM

I call Nam Redips, it's the most evil and despicable name he could choose.

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#29380: Aug 4th 2023 at 6:53:38 AM

Ben's still Peter's clone, it's a tall order to expect a better name from him.

Wake me up at your own risk.
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#29382: Aug 4th 2023 at 7:29:13 AM

Chat is kind of hilarious because, for all intents and purposes, Spider-Man was dating a civilian Squirrel Girl.

And it was surprisingly wholesome.

[up]

Fans are the worst. Even when they're right, they're the worst.

Fans: "Doctor Doom wouldn't mourn 9/11!"

Traumatized Marvel New Yorkers: "THAT WAS NOT THE POINT!"

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Aug 4th 2023 at 7:30:00 AM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#29383: Aug 4th 2023 at 8:03:13 AM

point is in universe it made no sense when much worse things happen on a daily basis

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#29384: Aug 4th 2023 at 8:06:53 AM

That whole bit about Dan Slott being engaged was already covered a few pages back.

Pointing out asshole comments from internet randos feels like drama importing.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#29385: Aug 4th 2023 at 8:08:44 AM

The famous Thor/Ultron "would have words with thee" line, mentioned a little while ago on the main Marvel thread, is from that time Ultron and Alkhema exterminated the entire European nation of Slorenia.

I believe Secret Empire killed (almost?) everyone in Las Vegas. At least until Doctor Strange resurrected the city.

I'm mostly just surprised by how stable the typical Marvel civilian is. It's a scary world.

Edited by Mrph1 on Aug 4th 2023 at 4:19:34 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#29386: Aug 4th 2023 at 8:16:55 AM

For a while, most of the US either didn’t believe superheroes were real or thought they were just a wacky New York thing

And Squirrel Girl met a superhero truther who thinks superheroes are a government conspiracy

So I assume a lot of them get through it via denial

Some civilians instead choose to just be the worst. Trying to mob violence mutants or blaming superheroes for everything.

And others choose ironic detachment

Not much different than the flaming dumpster fire that is the real world

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#29387: Aug 4th 2023 at 8:27:09 AM

You know, Jameson would have a FIELD DAY if he knew shit like Avengers 200 was a thing.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#29388: Aug 4th 2023 at 8:27:51 AM

I remember back in the first Galactus storyline, Jameson managed to convince the world Galactus was a hoax.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#29389: Aug 4th 2023 at 12:33:15 PM

[up][up]In the old days, he'd have found some way to blame it on Spider-Man.

BOOXMOWO Since: Mar, 2013
#29390: Aug 4th 2023 at 6:57:14 PM

I have not been reading any Spider-Man comics, but I've seen so many out-of-context complaints that it's made me morbidly curious... I've got to know...

Who exactly is this Paul guy that has earned the ire of the entire readerbase?

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#29391: Aug 4th 2023 at 7:03:40 PM

He's a guy who came out of nowhere to date Mary Jane, gets trapped in an alternate dimension with her where time passes faster, and then they marry as well as have kids. Except they're not married and the kids are adopted.

Then revealed to be fake.

And then Paul was revealed to be bigoted against Mutants.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#29392: Aug 5th 2023 at 1:35:46 AM

[up][up] Basically, Paul is a guy who helped his father commit mass genocide in another dimension. He spent years there fending off demons. In 616, another version of his father, who was introduced by Zeb Wells back in 2008, broke out of prison and sought out Spider-Man intending to 'mark' him and use his blood in a ritual to his god Wyebb.

Peter and MJ get transported by Rabin to Paul's dimension and connect with Paul, Mary Jane sends Peter back home using a teleportation device that can only carry one, and she helps Paul fend off Rabin in the dimension while Peter burns every bridge he has to try and get back to them, eventually enlisting Norman Osborn's help and stealing from the Fantastic Four.

Mary Jane is then binded to mystical chains by Rabin, and she and Paul find and begin raising two foster kids. Paul eventually confesses to her that he is Rabin's son and the two begin to bond with one another (it's never flat out confirmed this relationship is romantic in any way), Paul develops a special watch for MJ which allows her to tap into specific powers that are generated by lucky slots. If she draws three skull slotts, something bad might happen.

After Peter rescues Paul, MJ and the kids, MJ tells Peter she can't just break things off with the family and she has to end things with Peter for the sake of her responsibilities to them (this is how it's supposed to be conveyed if you read everything in full context, unfortunately the actual execution of the writing is terrible and she comes off worse than this)

Peter doesn't process this well, even punching out Paul at a later point, he eventually deduces Paul is Rabin's son and confronts him, and MJ admits she already knows, then tells Peter that Paul is trying to atone and that he reminds her of Peter's guilt with Uncle Ben.

Rabin eventually returns to 616 and goes after MJ, he reveals her children are the mystical chains and removes them from existence. Kamala Khan sacrifices herself disguised as Mary Jane and Rabin is killed by his gods for failing them.

MJ is still with Paul, but it's heavily implied that nothing he does is helping her, and this week it's revealed she and Peter are rebuilding their friendship, Paul admitting that Peter is making MJ happy again.

Edited by Zarius on Aug 5th 2023 at 1:39:15 AM

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#29393: Aug 5th 2023 at 1:38:16 AM

I like how it gets weirder the more you explain.

At least for once the entire spiderman fandom was United in bashing this dude. Peace in our times.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Nofix from Over there Since: Jan, 2015
#29394: Aug 5th 2023 at 1:51:12 AM

Spider-Man fans are united under two things. The first is hating editorial, the second is hating whatever stupid decisions they are making the writer pen this month.

FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#29395: Aug 5th 2023 at 2:14:02 AM

I can't believe this convoluted asinine story is making me miss Pedro the firefighter as MJ's boyfriend.

His story?

Just a simple firefighter who rescued MJ from a burning building then started dating her.

This was when Otto took over Peter's body decided that MJ was a weakness holding Peter back so opted to leave her to die.

MJ, dumbly couldn't tell this was Peter. Despite back in Kraven's Last Hunt she knew instantly the Russian wasn't her husband because of how vicous he was. Which was exactly Otto's gimmick as Peter spider-man but vicous and calculating.

Edited by FKJ10 on Aug 5th 2023 at 2:14:53 AM

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#29396: Aug 5th 2023 at 2:21:55 AM

[up][up]All this story has done is turn Zeb into one of the most disliked writers at marvel. When he has a pretty decent run before this.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#29397: Aug 5th 2023 at 2:50:04 AM

Paul develops a special watch for MJ which allows her to tap into specific powers that are generated by lucky slots. If she draws three skull slotts, something bad might happen.

His slot machine technology is ground breaking

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#29398: Aug 5th 2023 at 2:51:07 AM

How the fuck does that work?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#29399: Aug 5th 2023 at 2:56:48 AM

Good question

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#29400: Aug 5th 2023 at 2:59:15 AM

For another time.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"

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