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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

  • Apart from the main Marvel Universe titles, Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man "What If?" stories, crossovers, guest appearances in other books, Alternate Universe tales and things like Marvel's manga adaptations are all on-topic here.
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Technically, Marvel's Infinity Comics (and their predecessors, Infinite Comics) are webcomics, not comic books, but it's fine to talk about their Spider-Man stories here.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#29151: Jul 26th 2023 at 7:01:40 AM

She doesn't remember dying, so I presume she's forgotten Peter's identity too. She worries about her parents but Emma says she'll alter their memories of the past few days and they'll think she never died

Sooooo...I guess that Fallen Friend one-shot is already rendered 50% pointless? If Emma wipes the superheroes' memories of the same past few days, then it'll be 100% pointless, but I'll bet it won't come to that. I'll bet at the very least that Miles and Sam will be like "Holy $@!#" when they catch wind of this.

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#29152: Jul 26th 2023 at 7:04:43 AM

At least we got some memes out of it.

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#29154: Jul 26th 2023 at 7:35:34 AM

I’m so tired of Kamala’s parents getting mind wiped. It’s only happened twice but both times associated with disappointing changes in direction for the character

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Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#29155: Jul 26th 2023 at 7:42:55 AM

What If...Dark Spoilers:

Peter saves Gwen, but Norman intervenes and cuts his web line, Peter hits his head on the bridge as he and Gwen impact the water. Gwen is OK, but Peter is dead. Gwen discovers his identity then gets him out of the costume, telling the police Peter drowned saving her life. Gwen suits up in Peter's costume, but no powers or training makes it difficult, she needs help so she confides in Harry and together they confront Norman. Gwen defeats Norman and has the opportunity to kill him, but hesitates, Harry kills Norman instead, then breaks down when he realizes he is his father, he becomes the new Green Goblin and swears revenge on Gwen. Feeling responsible for creating a new Goblin, Gwen becomes Spider-Man permanently

FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#29156: Jul 26th 2023 at 8:00:10 AM

Damn Peter went out like Injustice!Nightwing

Yeah "What if Peter Saved Gwen Stacy" is definitely my preferred version of events.

Edited by FKJ10 on Jul 26th 2023 at 8:00:32 AM

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#29157: Jul 26th 2023 at 8:05:09 AM

[up][up] How does she overcome the No powers no training thing? How the hell do she and Harry defeat a green goblin?

Edited by Bocaj on Jul 26th 2023 at 11:05:47 AM

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Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#29158: Jul 26th 2023 at 8:11:20 AM

[up] They lure him into an abandoned warehouse and use a few tactical tricks to trap him in some web fluid they macguyvered, then Harry uses George Stacy's gun to shoot and kill his father when Gwen finds herself unwilling to use it

FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#29159: Jul 26th 2023 at 8:36:16 AM

Norman: NETS MY ONE WEAKNESS HOW'D YOU KNOW!?

Edited by FKJ10 on Jul 26th 2023 at 8:36:28 AM

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#29160: Jul 26th 2023 at 10:34:13 AM

Fun fact: Gwen Stacy only died because they wanted to kill Aunt May but were told that would force Peter to grow up.

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#29161: Jul 26th 2023 at 10:35:26 AM

Aunt May squats vampire like in the center of the mythos, draining others to stay alive

Although at least she’s not doing it on purpose. She’s like please let me die I’ve been 90 for sixty years!

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#29162: Jul 26th 2023 at 10:36:49 AM

At least we get to see her die constantly in adaptations as it should be.

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#29163: Jul 26th 2023 at 10:38:34 AM

[up][up] Have we had an actual undead Death Seeker May yet? Because I would absolutely read that story.

FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#29164: Jul 26th 2023 at 10:44:14 AM

So that makes three times the comics chose to destroy Peter's chance at a family in favor of keeping his elderly aunt alive

Norman killing Gwen Stacy

Norman killing Mayday

Mephisto erasing the marriage and any potential of Mayday coming back

Yet the MCU, Insomniac game and Spiderverse all allowed Aunt May to die and were better for it.

Though I gotta admit the MCU was the biggest gut punch (besides that May being the youngest version yet). Really had me cheering on Holland!Spider-Man to beat Dafoe!Goblin to death.

Funniest thing about Aunt May, Gwen pointed out that her coddling of Peter wasn't allowing him to grow up.

Oh how right she was.....

Edited by FKJ10 on Jul 26th 2023 at 10:46:10 AM

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#29165: Jul 26th 2023 at 10:44:46 AM

[up][up]Nah. Even in Marvel Zombies she was totally eaten alive rather than turning.

Edited by lbssb on Jul 26th 2023 at 1:45:03 PM

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knightstorm Since: Feb, 2022
#29166: Jul 26th 2023 at 6:25:32 PM

May's continued presence really does seem to be due to Marvels desire to keep Peter in a state of arrested development. It's why they fought so hard to keep the videogames from offing her. A fight they thankfully lost.

FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#29167: Jul 26th 2023 at 7:50:55 PM

For stuff like the MCU they really can't keep spinning their wheels as Tom Holland, like Evans and RDJ, is gonna get older tired of the role and leave for other projects.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#29168: Jul 26th 2023 at 7:55:49 PM

Yes, they need to adopt recasting as a trait.

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lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#29169: Jul 26th 2023 at 8:02:00 PM

The MCU really hates recasting... unless it's Rhodey. Or Banner. Or Thunderbolt Ross.

They're really inconsistent about that.

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#29170: Jul 26th 2023 at 8:04:46 PM

Mark Walberg is Iron Man!

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FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#29171: Jul 26th 2023 at 8:20:01 PM

See Rhodey, Banner and Ross are easy because they were early on before the franchise blew up.

Now these are established faces where the general public recognize these guys as the characters.

Honestly speaking of the MCU my only gripe with the Spider-Man movies was Tony Revolori's Flash.

Like Jesse Eisenberg as Luthor making for a better Riddler, Revolori's Flash made for a much better Harry Osborn.

Rich Dweeb Originally a bully to Peter Only popular because of rich parents

I really think the directors chose him to be Flash because out of all Peter's bullies from the Ditko days (Gwen, Harry and Flash) only the mainstream remembers Flash and continues to use him in adaptations.

Despite Flash being a much better friend to Peter in adulthood then Harry. Literally sacrifice his life to save Peter and Venom in the Red Goblin Fight.

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#29172: Jul 26th 2023 at 8:27:15 PM

See Rhodey, Banner and Ross are easy because they were early on before the franchise blew up.

The first two, yes, but Ross was recast this year after having popped back up as a recurring character since 2016 still played by William Hurt.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#29173: Jul 26th 2023 at 8:29:42 PM

The thing with MCU Flash is they wanted him to be a "modern" version of a bully, so since Peter is in a magnetic school he was changed to more of an intellectual snob than your archetypal jerk jock.

Which even disregarding the the possibility of Agent Venom, I can't see this guy joining the army. He's too much of a wimp.

Edited by slimcoder on Jul 26th 2023 at 8:30:19 AM

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Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#29174: Jul 26th 2023 at 8:33:02 PM

This wouldn't be an issue if adaptations weren't so scared if making Peter an asshole in high school. You wouldn't need to justify why Flash doesn't like him if they just spent time insulting each other like they used to.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#29175: Jul 26th 2023 at 8:34:34 PM

Peter was introverted and angry about his treatment and life but he wasn't a guy who deserved to be bullied.

Maguire's Peter did show he behaved, though.

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