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Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM
If nothing else, I think we can all agree the inevitable Spider-Gwen beats up Norman Osborn will be amazing to see.
Plus we don't have a Sins Past elephant in the room.
Warren seems like a theoretical baddie down the line. Or he could somehow be responsible for Spider-Gwen in this universe.
As for Jameson, it helps that he's one of the few consistent supporting cast members with character development that stuck.
Edited by RedHunter543 on Jul 25th 2023 at 2:59:58 AM
"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"This mostly boils down to the two writers not having to bring up that Gwen would have kids here. It was all Mysterio hypnotizing Norman.
Also Charles, I was digging up some of my old stuff, and I found my old DS copy of Spider-Man battle for New York.
Like not to be mean or anything, but there's a Kingpin boss fight, but you're playing as Gobby in this one.
It's actually pretty cool.
"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"It's funny when Spider-Gwen first appeared there was all this art of a heart broken Gwen and Peter lamenting their lost loves and trying to carry on
TASM movies were still fresh in people's minds and 65!Gwen wasn't that established beyond Punk Rocker from the original Spiderverse crossover.
Now we literally have this story in comic book form.
Yesterday, I described the new Boys spin off as:
"It seems to be the X-men except with a high body count and a lot more sex. Beat So Claremont's X-men."
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.MJ's debut as Jackpot going to a second printing before the issue is even out
I think Dave Sim's Spider-Man parody in Cerebus left The Boys with nowhere to go.
How do you top Dandy Don's in-universe comic "The Wanker", and its teen hero's sticky web-shooter extrusions?
I suspect Ennis wished he'd thought of that first.
(Plus the fact that Cerebus is entirely unaware of that slang and sincerely enjoying the hero's superhero adventures until his friend Bear, who does know the regional slang, sees an issue and absolutely corpses. I can't remember if the comic company knew it)
Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 25th 2023 at 11:31:56 AM
Yeah though Ennis did write that one comic where Punisher took on Spidey, Wolverine, Daredevil and Captain America IIRC.
Like they all teamed up to arrest him, and he just pointed out he could kill every inmate in prison.
"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"The two Spider-Man examples in Ennis's classic Punisher runs aren't terribly nice about him.
"Confederacy of Dunces" had him as the middle of the three heroes - not as horribly parodied and abused as Wolverine, but also getting far less respect (and causing Frank less trouble) than Daredevil. And then Hulk smashes them.
In "Does Whatever a Spider Can", Peter's effortlessly flattened by the newly rebuilt Russian, and then his unconscious body is used as a human shield by Frank. Cue some sort of "thanks for the team-up" quip from Frank at the end.
Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 25th 2023 at 2:39:32 PM
And we can thank Marvel themselves for (allegedly) mooching off of the concept of second printings just so they can insist that a particularly bad ASM run is considered a best-seller even though people have noted that said run is shelf-warming in local comic shops.
Real talk, second printings are code for "this particular issue was so in demand, we had to print it a second time," right? (Just to make sure.)
That's only because Ennis is a contrived-addicted moron.
Frank in his true state is a Normal Fish in a Tiny Pond that's good against non- or low-powered criminals and utterly useless for anything above his paygrade. What If the Punisher had Killed Spider-Man? shows he loses to even the lowest-powered hero when the author isn't biased in Frank's favor.
Edited by ThunderboltZekesAlt on Jul 25th 2023 at 10:49:35 AM
Frank killing himself is consistent with Garth's portrayal of him and Butcher for that matter.
A naturally violent man that when the source of their anger is gone they'll burn themselves out and engulf everyone close in the process.
So suicide after killing all the supes makes sense. Just like in the max series it's established that Frank won't be satisfied until he dies.
Very far away from Conway's initial interpretation of the villain turned anti hero. But Garth's portrayl is the best.

Helps JJ is usually written as a genuinely good guy and friend to Peter. Really thank the Raimi movies with scenes like him not giving away Peter's identity as the photo guy to Goblin. For this nice guy Jameson interpretation.
Second wonder how this What if Dark? Gwen Stacy will deal with her creepy Professor Miles Warren.