TVTropes Now available in the app store!
Open

Follow TV Tropes

Following

Spider-Man General Discussion

Go To

This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

  • Apart from the main Marvel Universe titles, Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man "What If?" stories, crossovers, guest appearances in other books, Alternate Universe tales and things like Marvel's manga adaptations are all on-topic here.
  • Spider-Man 'family' books are on-topic (as are their own crossovers, guest appearances etc.) - e.g. Spider-Man 2099, Miles Morales, Spider-Woman, Silk, Spider-Gwen, Venom, Carnage, Black Cat, Red Goblin and Spider-Verse.
  • Characters and comics that originated in Spider-Man but are no longer directly connected to the spider-franchise (e.g. Punisher, Silver Sable) are not on-topic, unless you're discussing historical connections and crossovers. If in doubt, check before you write a long post. If this isn't the right place, there's a more general Marvel Comics thread which covers them.

Technically, Marvel's Infinity Comics (and their predecessors, Infinite Comics) are webcomics, not comic books, but it's fine to talk about their Spider-Man stories here.

Discussions that are only about Spider-Man adaptations in other media (films, video games etc.) are off-topic, but discussing the differences between the adaptations and the original comics is fine - as long as spoilers for the adaptations are tagged.

Please follow the spoiler policy rules - tag spoilers for the latest issues, for any previews or content leaks, and for off-topic comics. When including spoiler tags, try to write so that tropers can make an informed decision before viewing them (e.g. which series and issue will they spoil?).

     Original Thread OP 
Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#28951: Jul 23rd 2023 at 11:48:23 AM

Is it Emily Kim writing again? She's started pulling back old plot threads and characters for Silk, so I'm optimistic that she'll get to the Storms eventually if she stays with Spider-Gwen.

A series in her own world without multiversal villainy or clones would be good.

That said, I did like how the last mini worked out. It didn't feel the need to kill the Vulture, Kraven, Sandman or Rhino Gwens - they're all off elsewhere in the world, freed from their brainwashing and living their best lives away from Gwen. And Gwen Ock, who made a Heroic Sacrifice, gets remembered with a proper funeral, not just dismissed as a clone.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#28952: Jul 23rd 2023 at 12:16:06 PM

[up]

A nice contrast to Gwenverse which killed off the temporal duplicates at the end.

And the writer for the new book is Melissa Flores.

Maybe one day we’ll find out how she defeated the Storm siblings.

I don't think she has defeated them, i think the newer writers have just ignored that plot thread.

Edited by Cortez on Jul 23rd 2023 at 3:19:45 PM

Nofix from Over there Since: Jan, 2015
#28953: Jul 23rd 2023 at 2:47:35 PM

Is there any good source for the long-term, in-universe, view that people have of Peter Parker and Spider-Man? Specifically how they think regular civilian Pete thinks of the ol' web head?

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#28954: Jul 23rd 2023 at 4:21:32 PM

Sadly, its Depending on the Writer.

There's a weird moment in Spider-Man and the X-men where Rachel Summers assumes Peter Parker is a sociopathic industrialist of the kind that started the Days of future past. Storm and other X-men also are needlessly hostile to him. Apparently, no one ever ever remembering all the team ups Spider-Man has done with anyone but Wolverine.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Jul 23rd 2023 at 4:22:09 AM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#28955: Jul 23rd 2023 at 4:24:39 PM

And I prefer the Ned Leeds Hobgoblin but I've always liked Richard Fisk as the Rose and the two of them being close friends.

Kingsley I just wish would disappear.

I also am weirded out they keep acting like Norman IS redeemed. No, he's just Brainwashed and Crazy.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#28956: Jul 23rd 2023 at 4:32:26 PM

People think Peter and Spidey hate each other for a long time. I don't think that stops being a thing until the Parker Industries Era, where Peter has enough faith in Spidey to hire him as a bodyguard.

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#28957: Jul 23rd 2023 at 4:37:28 PM

I do wonder if anybody In-Universe thought "wait, Tony Stark used to say Iron Man was his bodyguard before he revealed it was actually him all along. Maybe the same is true with Spider-Man and this Parker guy!!!"

Man, what are conspiracy theories even like in a superhero universe where it's actually more likely than not that you're actually correct about whatever weird and crazy thing is happening behind the scenes?

Disney100 Marathon | DreamWorks Marathon
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#28958: Jul 23rd 2023 at 4:39:55 PM

Man, what are conspiracy theories even like in a superhero universe where it's actually more likely than not that you're actually correct about whatever weird and crazy thing is happening behind the scenes?

Squirrel Girl introduced the concept of Super Truthers who believe that the government faked Thor, aliens, and mutants to keep its power.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#28959: Jul 23rd 2023 at 4:44:25 PM

So conspiracy theories in Marvel are about how the world is actually more mundane than They say it is.

...I love and hate how much sense that makes. [lol]

FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#28960: Jul 23rd 2023 at 7:15:25 PM

Ned as the Hobgoblin will always be synonymous with how much the politics of Spider-Man editorial is a dumpster fire.

Only Kingsly made sense be Robert Stern wrote it that way but was thrown out by Defalco because he hated the look alike brother switch.

Tiamatty X-Men X-Pert from Now on Twitter Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Brony
#28961: Jul 23rd 2023 at 11:30:19 PM

One thing I want to mention about the Gang War event: She-Hulk. She-Hulk is involved. I'm gonna be honest, She-Hulk getting involved in a gang war feels almost like overkill. Like, what can anyone involved do to her? It's not like shooting her will do anything other than annoy her. She's tougher even than Luke Cage.

I just feel like any time a Hulk shows up, anyone with even the tiniest bit of sense is just going to surrender. Like, she could just go up to each of the crime bosses and say, "hey, knock that shit off," and they'll just be like, "yes ma'am."

And there's a cover of the heroes armed with weapons, and she's got some wire wrapped around her arms and fists, and wow, is that ever superfluous. She's a Hulk. Her fists are already harder than steel.

The idea of She-Hulk getting involved in a gang war is just amusing to me.

X-Men X-Pert, my blog where I talk about X-Men comics.
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#28962: Jul 23rd 2023 at 11:42:04 PM

On the other side of the argument, why wouldn’t she help out Spidey in a gang war?

Like you said, she’s OP.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#28963: Jul 23rd 2023 at 11:49:14 PM

Maybe she's going to help with lawyer powers

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#28964: Jul 23rd 2023 at 11:50:08 PM

I think Jen and Luke Cage are relatively even in abilities in that sense.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#28965: Jul 24th 2023 at 12:06:04 AM

Wasn’t She Hulk, Jameson’s daughter in law or something?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#28966: Jul 24th 2023 at 12:06:50 AM

They broke up when he couldn't accept the She-Hulk part of her.

Mind you, the constant crap talking about the Jenn Walters part reads differently now that people imagine her as Tatiana Maslany.

Mind you, it was probably never healthy.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Jul 24th 2023 at 12:07:36 PM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#28967: Jul 24th 2023 at 12:10:12 AM

Who is Tatiana?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
c1beat7per9minute It's like I'm in some kind of... TV Tropes... (Season 2) Relationship Status: She turned into the moon
It's like I'm in some kind of... TV Tropes...
#28968: Jul 24th 2023 at 12:13:43 AM

found these at sdcc

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/img_5791_8.jpeg

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#28969: Jul 24th 2023 at 12:13:55 AM

[up][up]She-Hulk's live action actress.

A lot of SHE-HULK prior to her show is based around how much Jenn hates being her human self and how she's perfectly happy living full-time as an Amazonian Beauty. Which is a contrast to the show where she's more mixed in her feelings.

The show version, of course, is gorgeous and likable and strong in her own way so, Adaptational Badass?

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Jul 24th 2023 at 12:15:24 PM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Tiamatty X-Men X-Pert from Now on Twitter Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Brony
#28970: Jul 24th 2023 at 12:26:20 AM

[up][up][up] According to fans of Orphan Black, Tatiana Maslany might be in the room with you right now.

Edited by Tiamatty on Jul 24th 2023 at 3:29:42 PM

X-Men X-Pert, my blog where I talk about X-Men comics.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#28971: Jul 24th 2023 at 12:36:30 AM

[up][up][up] Cool stuff.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#28972: Jul 24th 2023 at 12:41:36 AM

[up][up][up] Ah, that makes sense.

[up] Seems Amazing Spider-Man is getting relaunched.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#28973: Jul 24th 2023 at 12:47:55 AM

She-Hulk's very first comic run did initially portray her as resenting the difficulties She-Hulk introduced to her life. Because, yes, initially, She-Hulk was portrayed as a Hulk like separate personality. But less antisocial than Hulk. Later in the book, when Jen's life fell apart due to various things, she escaped from Jen by going She-Hulk full time.

Even though she resolved some of her life problems by the end of the run, when she joined the Avengers book, she's still being She-Hulk full time and hates turning into Jen. She had also completely ditched her life in California and barely ever brought it up again. Except to complain that New York was boring compared to LA.

As an origin, it does make sense to start off with Jen not being thrilled about her big green problem and have her grow to appreciate the advantages it offers.

Edited by Bocaj on Jul 24th 2023 at 3:49:32 PM

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#28974: Jul 24th 2023 at 1:12:30 AM

The problem with the show is that it focused too much on Jen's grumblings about being She-Hulk at the expense of the fun law stuff, only to end on a unresolved note on whether she actually accepted her transformation or not.

Edited by slimcoder on Jul 24th 2023 at 1:13:06 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#28975: Jul 24th 2023 at 1:16:15 AM

Guys, Spider-Man thread.

But now I'm wondering if the She Hulk show could ever adapt that time Spider-Man sued Jameson.

TBH, MCU Spidey has more grounds for it.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"

Total posts: 38,961
Top