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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#28851: Jul 21st 2023 at 10:44:18 AM

I really enjoy the Mary Jane and Black Cat series.

I would read the hell out of a Mary Jane ongoing.

Of course, Marvel never noticed that DC ran a Lois Lane comic for like 20 years.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#28852: Jul 21st 2023 at 10:47:43 AM

Weird how they never tried to continue the MJ series.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#28853: Jul 21st 2023 at 10:56:04 AM

[up][up] The MJ/Black Cat Beyond one-shot was pretty good. The mini-series isn't held in high regard at all because it had to work with Wells' b.s status quo and MJ was unlikeable in it.

FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#28854: Jul 21st 2023 at 1:24:12 PM

I mean the original one shot starts with a jealous and protective MJ not even wanting Black Cat to visit Peter in the hospital during the beyond arc.

Then Wells has MJ cheat on and leave Peter for Paul so MJ now comes off as a hypocrite we're supposed to root got in this new mini series.

Which goes back to my earlier statement MJ has become a tool for the writers and not an actual character.

Even the new "Jackpot" persona is just another way for writers to keep MJ around without having her be with Peter.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#28855: Jul 21st 2023 at 2:28:25 PM

I like Jackpot a lot and can't wait to see MJ as a hero.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#28856: Jul 21st 2023 at 3:06:43 PM

I don't because it's telling me the writer can't do proper interpersonal drama with Peter's personal life so they are making all his supporting cast into superheroes.

Plus it's relation to the Paul saga annoys me on a deep level and run in conflict with my one wish post Zeb Wells.

Everyone in universe forgets this run ever happened and we go back to where Nick Spencer left off.

It has been the definition of cheap drama. Literally killing off Ms. Marvel just to publicly announce her resurrection as an x-men weeks later.

Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#28857: Jul 21st 2023 at 4:23:11 PM

I think that the art of a civilian supporting cast is dying. The last character who really had one where they all felt important and fleshed out was Ms. Marvel, which is why I hope that x-men phase dies out

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#28858: Jul 21st 2023 at 4:23:39 PM

I just realized why they gave Peter that “Spider-Goblin” costume.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#28859: Jul 21st 2023 at 4:28:55 PM

Yeah?

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Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#28860: Jul 21st 2023 at 4:33:43 PM

Because that’s what he will wear when he turns evil from absorbing Norman’s sins.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#28861: Jul 21st 2023 at 4:38:42 PM

I don't think that Mary Jane being a superhero is any weirder than Jimmy Olsen is. She's also proven strong, capable, and able to handle it.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#28862: Jul 21st 2023 at 4:40:08 PM

I don’t have any problems with the concept. I’m just not that excited about her getting jackpot powers because she said an iconic line decades ago

Give her the power to shoot tigers out of her fingertips and then we’ll talk

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#28863: Jul 21st 2023 at 4:49:01 PM

[up][up] I mean that's more Jimmy getting into tons of wacky antics but he's never really been a superhero to that degree.

He gets transformed into monsters like turtle boy but this whole thing with Jackpot is something else entirely.

[up][up][up][up][up][up] Yeah its an issue with modern superheroes, not helped by how a lot of Superheroes only ever associate with other superheroes especially romantically.

Edited by slimcoder on Jul 21st 2023 at 4:50:04 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#28864: Jul 21st 2023 at 4:54:02 PM

He also had that stint of playing Robin in a Kryptonian city, IIRC.

Wake me up at your own risk.
FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#28865: Jul 21st 2023 at 10:25:45 PM

Does anyone else find it funny that every male Spider hero in 616 sans Kaine has made a deal with Mephisto.

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#28866: Jul 21st 2023 at 10:45:31 PM

News coming out of San Diego

-As expected, a new Superior Spider-Man ongoing is launching in November, Slott and Mark Bagley are the creative team. That means Slott is doing multiple books gain. Christos Gage ain't gonna go hungry

-Tom De Falco and Pat Ollife are reuniting for a Secret Wars 40th anniversary special set on Battleworld just as Peter first aqquired the symbiote

-Al Ewing has quietly departed Venom and they've tossed out the current plot entirely so the new writer, Torunn Gronbekk, can replace Eddie in the role with the Black Widow.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#28867: Jul 21st 2023 at 10:48:00 PM

Wait what about Venom?

"Natasha Romanoff, Black Widow, Will Stay The New Venom Well Into 2024"

Oh my God

Edited by slimcoder on Jul 21st 2023 at 10:55:06 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Tiamatty X-Men X-Pert from Now on Twitter Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Brony
#28868: Jul 21st 2023 at 11:07:41 PM

"Christos Gage ain't gonna go hungry" That is some solid shade on Slott, bravo.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#28869: Jul 21st 2023 at 11:11:16 PM

Okay this Venom news has made me shockingly ill.

Like I have been able to keep a healthy degree of emotional detachment from the current shitshow with Peter, but I was actually enjoyed Venom so this hurts a lot wow.

Ewing is gone, replaced by a mediocre writer, and Black Widow a character I have never particularly liked is possibly replacing Eddie. I don't know which is worse, this is very fowl news overall.

Edited by slimcoder on Jul 21st 2023 at 11:11:33 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Nofix from Over there Since: Jan, 2015
#28870: Jul 21st 2023 at 11:19:32 PM

Couple things. I've not read much in terms of Venom comics, but does Black Widow have a big connection to him or his mythos that I didn't know about? Also, that suit looks more like a female take on Kaine's Scarlet Spider outfit, mixed with a bit of Punisher.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#28871: Jul 21st 2023 at 11:21:19 PM

She doesn't, she has no connection to the character to my knowledge beyond sharing a spider theme.

Its like if say Star-Lord decided to replace Cyclops as leader of the X-Men, thats how random this is.

Edited by slimcoder on Jul 21st 2023 at 11:21:45 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#28872: Jul 21st 2023 at 11:40:20 PM

Or Ms. Marvel dying for Mary Jane.

Okay, no, that's silly.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#28873: Jul 21st 2023 at 11:47:02 PM

Wait, the Natasha who will be the new Venom is a clone right?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#28874: Jul 22nd 2023 at 12:04:15 AM

Huh Gronbrekk us also writing the Carnage relaunch.

This is weird, why is she being given the symbiote titles?

So is Ewing off the board entirely cause I heard someone say he was only on a break.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#28875: Jul 22nd 2023 at 12:06:24 AM

[up] Sounds like it. With Avengers Inc. and Thor, as well as X-Men Red, he's still going to be busy


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