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Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM
Gwen coming back depends on if someone could write good stories for her.
But I think it would be a mistake to do so now. They'd only be doing it as another obstacle to Peter and MJ, and that would just breed resentment towards Gwen, not unlike every other new love interest they've tried.
If Gwen did come back, I'd like her to be something besides a love interest. Lets see what she is without Peter in her life. Or you know, give her an actual character. It seemed like no one could decide what she actually was beyond loves peter, hates Spiderman.
One Strip! One Strip!So I checked out that Days of Future Past Issue you all were talking about. Peter actually does try to just swing away when it's clear things are getting ugly, but the mob somehow pulls him down.
Notably, Shadowcat, who's narrating calls bullshit on the idea that Peter refused to fight back because he didn't want to hurt the crowd. As she puts it, who lets an angry mob beat them to death?
That's a damn good question Marvel. I think they just really wanted it to happen this way and logic was shoved in a corner to make it happen. Hell, him jumping into the middle of the crowd is dumb in the first place.
One Strip! One Strip!I could see Peter giving into Despair Event Horizon in such a bleak place. Peter has a history of giving into those.
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.That's a very defeatist way of thinking honestly and just focuses on again ruining Peter's chance of happiness saying hey your first love is alive but says the two of you would never work out.
When honestly the problem Peter and Gwen had originally was basic communication issues. As Gwen wanted Peter to cpme with her to Europe and propose to her but Peter was too racked with guilt to come along as himself.
Heck TASM movies simply subverted this by having Peter reveal himself as Spider-Man prior to Captain Stacy's death. Destroying the relationship problems that made Gwen a "bad love interest" in the first place.
Honestly Gerry Conway's writing of Gwen as the "nothing character" was too effective. As today everyone thinks of her as the nagging girlfriend of Spider-Man that unfairly died to Green Goblin.
I suspect that having him be beaten to death by a crowd of people he'd have normally been saving (and was trying to calm) down is meant to be more tragic.
It's to show that all heroes, not just mutants, are being hated by the people they've tried to help.
One Strip! One Strip!Reading the comic and Peter did try to escape, but the humans swarmed him and killed him, and the narrator doubts he just gave up because "who lets an angry mob beat them to death"?
I think we might find out he didn't really die later on.
Edited by lalalei2001 on Jul 15th 2023 at 12:58:29 PM
The Protomen enhanced my life....come to think of it, we don't see a body, and there's no mention of a funeral.
It's possible he managed to somehow get away...and then just said Spiderman no more, only this time, it stuck.
Like, nearly being beaten to death by people he's probably saved a few time wouldn't be the worst reason to say !@#$% you all!
One Strip! One Strip!Assassin Spider-Man, and he made quick work of his rogues permanently after joining with Wolverine and Shield.
So the complete opposite of Zeb Wells can't fight his way out of a paperbag Spider-Man.
Well, shoot. So there's literally nothing that can save the Zeb Wells run at this point? We're better off waiting it out?
But that's the opposite of what we want!
It just goes to show there really are writers who could run circles around these backwards-thinking editors. Get real, editors. (*keeps trying to manifest Jed MacKay as the writer on ASM after Zeb Wells*)
I don't know if it's MJ specifically that's viewed as restrictive so much as it is any healthy, committed relationship. They like having Peter in romantic relationships, but they also want those relationships to be a source of drama, where you can never be sure how long they're going to last, and where they can be cast aside without too much trouble if someone wants to try putting Peter in a different relationship.

The Thousand is better off dead.
"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"