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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

  • Apart from the main Marvel Universe titles, Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man "What If?" stories, crossovers, guest appearances in other books, Alternate Universe tales and things like Marvel's manga adaptations are all on-topic here.
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Technically, Marvel's Infinity Comics (and their predecessors, Infinite Comics) are webcomics, not comic books, but it's fine to talk about their Spider-Man stories here.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
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#28026: Jun 22nd 2023 at 4:49:31 AM

[up] I'd beg to differ. The X-Men books are full of LGBTQIA+ characters all year round, and Marvel's done multiple same-sex romance arcs in ''Love Unlimited'" and other Infinity Comics.

The current New Mutants series is centered around a will-they-won't-they romance between trans woman Escapade and cis woman Martha, for example.

The Spider-books don't have the same level of representation - possibly because most of the leads have historically been straight guys. But you've still got Silk's best friends, a lesbian couple who recently married, and other examples.

As for the MCU, let's see how it goes. I'd expect more representation on television than in film, but I think it'll keep increasing in both.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jun 22nd 2023 at 12:51:24 PM

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#28027: Jun 22nd 2023 at 10:36:04 AM

Marvel releasing a few prose What If... branded novels in 2024. One of them is about Wanda and Peter being siblings

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#28028: Jun 22nd 2023 at 10:39:03 AM

Wanda and Peter being siblings is such an out there idea that I'm interested.

Would probably be less of an asshole than Pietro.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#28029: Jun 22nd 2023 at 11:35:32 AM

I misread 'Peter' as Pietro and was confused. XD

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Shadow-Whisperer Comedy guy from Tacoland Since: Jun, 2022
Comedy guy
#28030: Jun 22nd 2023 at 7:04:02 PM

[up] You know what, someone probably did the same but in reverse, reading Wanda and Peter instead of Pietro, and thats where that idea came from.

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#28031: Jun 22nd 2023 at 7:54:02 PM

So, next will be Colossus? That guy already has a complicated relationship with a magic sister.

Wake me up at your own risk.
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#28032: Jun 22nd 2023 at 8:18:59 PM

For some reason, I'm reminded of the Kitty Pryde and Ultimate Peter romance.

That was shockingly good.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#28033: Jun 22nd 2023 at 8:38:47 PM

Didn't it fall apart in another book?

Its hard to have a relationship between books, with different writers

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#28034: Jun 22nd 2023 at 8:40:05 PM

Yeah it fell apart in the Clone Saga because Peter just couldn't get over MJ.

Shame Bendis played that card when Kitty was actually a pretty fun addition to the cast IMO.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#28035: Jun 23rd 2023 at 12:09:50 AM

Huh the loki book author looks like weird choice. Madeleine Roux is a gothic horror author. You know like either asylums or regal Victorian Dresses mixed with people getting killed in over the top ways.

That premise is....different than what she normally does.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#28036: Jun 23rd 2023 at 2:53:48 AM

[up][up][up] I think most of the relationship was in the same book, USM. The get-together and break up both.

Surely the bonus of a multiverse is that we can have Spider-Butch and original Anya?

As it is we barely can have original Anya at all [lol]sad

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#28037: Jun 23rd 2023 at 3:09:10 AM

Though one Ultimate X-Man story in the future implied that Peter and Kitty were married.

Funny that.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#28038: Jun 23rd 2023 at 3:12:03 AM

I remember Kitty having an imagine spot about it but not that

What's that from? Also, good for them

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#28039: Jun 23rd 2023 at 5:24:39 AM

[up] Ultimate Peter and MJ pretty much eloped the last time we saw them, and yeah, Kitty had a fantasy of marrying Peter while they continued to grieve him, I think it was in USM#200

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#28040: Jun 23rd 2023 at 8:28:15 AM

[up][up] There was an X-Men story where in the future, Spider-Man broke Kitty out of some kind of interdimensional prison and it was implied they were still dating.

I forgot the exact context.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#28041: Jun 23rd 2023 at 8:41:59 AM

Looks like Slott's book is cancelled as it's not showing up in September solicits. I kind of figured it was going away after the Superior book was announced.

Where will Slott stick Spider-Boy in next?

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#28042: Jun 23rd 2023 at 8:56:33 AM

[up] For a hot second, I thought you said Superior was getting canceled. But no, it's just the adjective-less Spider-Man book.

I think I figured as much because it sounded like Slott was canning adjective-less Spider-Man for Superior Spider-Man.

But how we get from Evil Doc Ock in Doc Ock body to Doc Ock in Spider-Body is anybody's guess.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#28043: Jun 23rd 2023 at 9:21:15 AM

[up][up][up] I've read the entire Ultimate universe and I don't remember that, lol

Do you remember any more details? I want to try and find it

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#28044: Jun 23rd 2023 at 9:34:55 AM

I had thought the SM book was only here for the Spider-verse event tbh

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#28045: Jun 23rd 2023 at 9:37:07 AM

[up][up] Yeah I remember it was a scene of adult Spider-Man saving Kitty Pryde and the other X-Men from some kind of jail in a pocket dimension and it was mentioned in this site as well.

I saw the bit on the Marvel database. I'll get back to you on that one.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#28046: Jun 26th 2023 at 12:00:23 AM

Over on instagram, Ryan Stegman is promoting his upcoming Marvel Age#1000 story and confirmed he'll be doing a lot more writing going forward. I guess Marvel were impressed with his work on Hulk after Donny Cates left abruptly. Some people are already speculating he's taking over from Zeb Wells on ASM.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#28047: Jun 26th 2023 at 12:22:55 AM

Wasn’t it Ryan Ottley who worked on Cates’ Hulk?

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Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#28048: Jun 26th 2023 at 12:31:55 AM

[up] It was. And his issues, based on Cates' arc plot, were ok.

Stegman's written some spider-stuff and one-offs over the years, but iirc never an ongoing series.

Personally, I think Marvel would be very reluctant to give a high-profile ongoing title for their top-selling character to someone with no track record of runs on other ongoing books.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jun 26th 2023 at 8:32:53 PM

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#28049: Jun 26th 2023 at 1:06:32 AM

Didn't Stegman write the RYV ongoing?

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#28050: Jun 26th 2023 at 1:11:13 AM

Thought that was Gerry Conway.

Or did Stegman come after?

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