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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

  • Apart from the main Marvel Universe titles, Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man "What If?" stories, crossovers, guest appearances in other books, Alternate Universe tales and things like Marvel's manga adaptations are all on-topic here.
  • Spider-Man 'family' books are on-topic (as are their own crossovers, guest appearances etc.) - e.g. Spider-Man 2099, Miles Morales, Spider-Woman, Silk, Spider-Gwen, Venom, Carnage, Black Cat, Red Goblin and Spider-Verse.
  • Characters and comics that originated in Spider-Man but are no longer directly connected to the spider-franchise (e.g. Punisher, Silver Sable) are not on-topic, unless you're discussing historical connections and crossovers. If in doubt, check before you write a long post. If this isn't the right place, there's a more general Marvel Comics thread which covers them.

Technically, Marvel's Infinity Comics (and their predecessors, Infinite Comics) are webcomics, not comic books, but it's fine to talk about their Spider-Man stories here.

Discussions that are only about Spider-Man adaptations in other media (films, video games etc.) are off-topic, but discussing the differences between the adaptations and the original comics is fine - as long as spoilers for the adaptations are tagged.

Please follow the spoiler policy rules - tag spoilers for the latest issues, for any previews or content leaks, and for off-topic comics. When including spoiler tags, try to write so that tropers can make an informed decision before viewing them (e.g. which series and issue will they spoil?).

     Original Thread OP 
Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
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#28001: Jun 21st 2023 at 12:59:20 PM

[up] I think Ben's had more than enough from Beyond recently...

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#28002: Jun 21st 2023 at 1:35:45 PM

I don't know.

I don't think he's had enough of his fist in all their faces yet.

He definitely needs a lot of that.

Like, Ben should be trying to smash the face of every person who ever worked for beyond until they have no face left to smash instead of taking things out on Peter.

One Strip! One Strip!
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#28003: Jun 21st 2023 at 2:27:55 PM

He has no one to blame but himself for the name Chasm

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#28004: Jun 21st 2023 at 2:38:38 PM

I don't know why, but I get Bart Allen vibes from Spider-Boy, I kind of like him.

Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#28005: Jun 21st 2023 at 2:44:55 PM

I had wondered how Hybrid would be if Scream was added to the amalgamation. But when it finally happens they also throw Toxin into the mix.

When was Toxin stolen from Bren?

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Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
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#28006: Jun 21st 2023 at 3:31:25 PM

A while back there was a suggestion to add a pinned welcome post on this thread, which didn't get much response, so never actually happened. Given that we've just had some discussion about the Punisher being off-topic (and some questions about which other books are on-topic), maybe it's worth revisiting that?

How's this for a pinned post intro:

This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

  • Apart from the main Marvel Universe titles, Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man "What If?" stories, crossovers, guest appearances in other books, Alternate Universe tales and things like Marvel's manga adaptations are all on-topic here.
  • Spider-Man 'family' books are on-topic (as are their own crossovers, guest appearances etc.) - e.g. Spider-Man 2099, Miles Morales, Spider-Woman, Silk, Spider-Gwen, Venom, Carnage, Black Cat, Red Goblin and Spider-Verse.
  • Characters and comics that originated in Spider-Man but are no longer directly connected to the spider-franchise (e.g. Punisher, Silver Sable) are not on-topic, unless you're discussing historical connections and crossovers. If in doubt, check before you write a long post. If this isn't the right place, there's a more general Marvel Comics thread which covers them.

Technically, Marvel's Infinity Comics (and their predecessors, Infinite Comics) are webcomics, not comic books, but it's fine to talk about their Spider-Man stories here.

Discussions that are only about Spider-Man adaptations in other media (films, video games etc.) are off-topic, but discussing the differences between the adaptations and the original comics is fine - as long as spoilers for the adaptations are tagged.

Please follow the spoiler policy rules - tag spoilers for the latest issues, for any previews or content leaks, and for off-topic comics. When including spoiler tags, try to write so that tropers can make an informed decision before viewing them (e.g. which series and issue will they spoil?).

If people think that's a good idea, we can ask the mods to add it (after any amendments).

How's it look?

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 10th 2023 at 3:28:39 PM

Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#28007: Jun 21st 2023 at 3:44:45 PM

So Across the Spider-Verse features a version of Anya Corazon who has become a bit of a Ensemble Dark Horse. She is however very different from the classic Anya, being big and buff, she has been dubbed "Spider-Butch" by people who don't know she's Anya.

Because of this, there's the suggestion that should change comic Anya to ressemble more the film version. Thoughts?

This how she looks in the movie btw: https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/anya_corazon_spider_man_across_the_spider_verse.png https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/tumblr_l_294480004828704.jpg https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/tumblr_l_294491095628179.jpg

I do want the armor back!

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#28008: Jun 21st 2023 at 3:46:13 PM

I like the idea of her getting the armor back but this feels like Anya In Name Only so I wouldn't want that at all

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#28009: Jun 21st 2023 at 3:48:53 PM

I like Anya as is.

This version, for example, dramatically deemphasizes her ethnic heritage.

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Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
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#28010: Jun 21st 2023 at 3:53:58 PM

Surely the bonus of a multiverse is that we can have Spider-Butch and original Anya?

We've already had at least one alternate of her turn up in a Spider-Verse arc.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#28011: Jun 21st 2023 at 4:12:05 PM

I never knew she had that armour.

I'm fine with Classic Anya, but this one is pretty cool. Maybe make her an alternate version or a new character with a new name.

One Strip! One Strip!
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#28012: Jun 21st 2023 at 4:16:20 PM

Well it’s a different armor type.

This one is more full body and from the looks of it tech based compared to classic Anya’s mystical armor.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#28013: Jun 21st 2023 at 4:21:48 PM

I’ve been curious. Who is the Spider next to her in the Blue and Black suit?

I think that’s a really cool design despite the unfortunate similarities to the “Blue Lives Matter” flag.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#28014: Jun 21st 2023 at 4:33:06 PM

Who is the Spider next to her in the Blue and Black suit?

Maybe a variant of Spider-Man that joined the Fantastic 4 and/or the Future Foundation?

Yeah, it runs into the hiccup of "Spider-Man movies can't reference non-Spider adjacent super-people", but would Marvel's lawyers really throw a temper tantrum because there was a Spider-Variant in a blue and black costume?

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Jun 22nd 2023 at 10:39:19 AM

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#28015: Jun 21st 2023 at 4:59:44 PM

I could see that.

I can’t tell for sure, but it kind of looks like he’s wearing a martial arts kind of sash, so I was wondering ninja.

Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#28016: Jun 21st 2023 at 6:12:07 PM

This version, for example, dramatically deemphasizes her ethnic heritage.

Should be noted that her tattoo emphasizes her ethnic heritage.

She's still magic based, and her tattoo takes more cues from mayan art. https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/tumblr_l_297424926103935.jpg https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/tumblr_l_297432063356224.jpg https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/tumblr_l_297441797043720.jpg

Edited by Akirakan on Jun 21st 2023 at 8:12:24 AM

Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#28017: Jun 21st 2023 at 6:22:10 PM

I'm pretty sure they show the Iron Spider suit at some point in one of those movies, so they can get away with alternative suits that reference other characters.

Tiamatty X-Men X-Pert from Now on Twitter Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Brony
#28018: Jun 21st 2023 at 11:39:11 PM

While I'm not sure I'd want regular Anya to get that big, I'd definitely be fine with her getting butcher than she normally is. There is a tragic lack of thicc women in cape comics.

On a side note, have there been any transgender Spider-people? I'm just curious. Obviously, Gwen's "Protect Trans Kids" poster prompted a lot of people to read her as trans-coded, but is there a Spider-person who's canonically trans?

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Sircray Since: Apr, 2018
#28019: Jun 22nd 2023 at 12:23:09 AM

They showed what looked like an FTM version of Gwen among the alternate versions of her in the last issue of Spider-Gwen: Shadow Clones.

FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#28020: Jun 22nd 2023 at 12:51:27 AM

I don't care for the movie Anya design and to keep it 100% I thought it was a guy at first watch.

Just not my type.

There aren't any trans Spider people yet because Marvel would definitely be making headlines about the with Trans Spider hero like with Web Weaver.

Tiamatty X-Men X-Pert from Now on Twitter Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Brony
#28021: Jun 22nd 2023 at 1:29:27 AM

[up] I kinda thought that might be the case. It's only slightly surprising they haven't yet.

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FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#28022: Jun 22nd 2023 at 2:38:31 AM

They're probably reading the current political climate that it's would cause more controversy than good publicity

Far right has gotten way more pressed as of late.

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
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#28023: Jun 22nd 2023 at 3:00:38 AM

Marvel is not shying away from trans characters, though - and we had a trans man symbiote character (Muzzle) introduced in a Spider-Man story a week or two ago.

They might not launch a solo book with a trans lead (yet), but I would be surprised if the spider-office had concerns about introducing relatively minor trans characters.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jun 22nd 2023 at 11:02:49 AM

Tiamatty X-Men X-Pert from Now on Twitter Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Brony
#28024: Jun 22nd 2023 at 3:15:04 AM

[up][up] I doubt that's the case. I'd argue Marvel wants to be seen as progressive. They're still doing Spider-Verse anthologies, right? They've probably just got a lot of creators they solicit pitches from for those, and they only have so much page space.

So I guess whether a trans Spider-person shows up probably depends on whether they keep doing Spider-Verse anthologies.

They did introduce a disabled Spider-Woman, that's cool. And I liked her joke in Across the Spider-Verse about using humour as a crutch. That was a cute pun.

Edited by Tiamatty on Jun 22nd 2023 at 6:15:25 AM

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FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#28025: Jun 22nd 2023 at 4:36:55 AM

I doubt Disney Marvel would do anything like that for the MCU especially considering China's throwing a fit over Lightyear's kiss and American Chavez's two moms.

Comics maybe but they'd really have to do it quick during pride month now while the marketing iron is hot. Otherwise they'd be drowned out by comics gate sensationalism on Twitter and You Tube.

Yeah my opinion of Disney Marvel is their progressiveness is wholly conditional. So long as it can give them a big enough profit/good pr and not hurt global audiences that aren't big on the LGBT community they'll do it.


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