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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

  • Apart from the main Marvel Universe titles, Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man "What If?" stories, crossovers, guest appearances in other books, Alternate Universe tales and things like Marvel's manga adaptations are all on-topic here.
  • Spider-Man 'family' books are on-topic (as are their own crossovers, guest appearances etc.) - e.g. Spider-Man 2099, Miles Morales, Spider-Woman, Silk, Spider-Gwen, Venom, Carnage, Black Cat, Red Goblin and Spider-Verse.
  • Characters and comics that originated in Spider-Man but are no longer directly connected to the spider-franchise (e.g. Punisher, Silver Sable) are not on-topic, unless you're discussing historical connections and crossovers. If in doubt, check before you write a long post. If this isn't the right place, there's a more general Marvel Comics thread which covers them.

Technically, Marvel's Infinity Comics (and their predecessors, Infinite Comics) are webcomics, not comic books, but it's fine to talk about their Spider-Man stories here.

Discussions that are only about Spider-Man adaptations in other media (films, video games etc.) are off-topic, but discussing the differences between the adaptations and the original comics is fine - as long as spoilers for the adaptations are tagged.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#27976: Jun 20th 2023 at 12:35:19 PM

re: Mv C-Spidey's death being ignored by Capcom with Infinite:

I've got three hypotheses as to how this Continuity Snarl might still be able to make sense in-canon.

my preferred explanation is that nothing in spider-verse is canon

ez

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#27977: Jun 20th 2023 at 12:36:01 PM

I like “the kid just reset the game” myself.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#27978: Jun 20th 2023 at 12:36:06 PM

they all attacked a universe exactly the same as the one they said but their totems are actually assholes

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#27979: Jun 20th 2023 at 12:38:58 PM

My headcanon has always been that Infinite takes place in a different universe than the other games (for as much as there is any sort of canon for the MvC games), one where the X-Men just flat-out don't exist. Because if they did, then where the fuck were they when all the story stuff was happening? I mean, besides Perlmutter jail, obviously, but where were they on a non-meta level.

Disney100 Marathon | DreamWorks Marathon
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#27980: Jun 20th 2023 at 12:40:42 PM

Heheh anyone remember the whole Miles-Thor debacle from a while back?

"By Odin's fade!"

He's not even wearing a fade in that image.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#27981: Jun 20th 2023 at 1:01:33 PM

Since I just finished Beyond, where is Spider-Boy to read about him? Got so much catching up to do.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Tiamatty X-Men X-Pert from Now on Twitter Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Brony
#27982: Jun 20th 2023 at 2:14:52 PM

"Wolvie surviving the Civil War incineration was a special circumstance, wasn’t it?" That circumstance is Guggenheim being a hack writer.

X-Men X-Pert, my blog where I talk about X-Men comics.
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#27983: Jun 20th 2023 at 2:25:32 PM

[up][up][up][up] in a very x men move they were probably doing their own crossover at that time or stuck in an alternate world where love is illegal

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#27984: Jun 21st 2023 at 5:48:11 AM

Ultimate Invasion#1 Designates the new Ultimate Universe, or at least the world The Maker visits after leaving 616, as Earth 6160. On this World, Peter Parker exists and appears to be 'friends' with Liz Allan (who might be a totes tsundre), the spider doesn't bite him in this world though as it's intercepted by someone

Edited by Zarius on Jun 21st 2023 at 5:48:42 AM

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#27985: Jun 21st 2023 at 5:53:06 AM

[up] And by 'someone' we mean The Maker.

Further spoilers for #1: I did like the Maker's conversation with Miles earlier in the issue. Lots of grand "we are the sole survivors, we are the heirs to gods" stuff (paraphrased), ending with a "did you know that?". Miles, rather calmer, points out that, yeah, he knew that. And?

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#27987: Jun 21st 2023 at 7:44:41 AM

[up] So, do we see a big twist coming? That cover for #34 just seems obvious and inevitable...

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#27988: Jun 21st 2023 at 9:26:53 AM

[up] I've seen speculation that Peter absorbs Norman's sins

Edited by Zarius on Jun 21st 2023 at 9:28:39 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#27989: Jun 21st 2023 at 10:42:16 AM

Finally, the Gold Goblin is going to take that wife selling, Satan dealing, Beijing friendly former corpo, menace Spider-Man!

Edited by RedHunter543 on Jun 22nd 2023 at 1:42:28 AM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#27990: Jun 21st 2023 at 11:27:39 AM

Slott actually managed to make Bailey the Spider-Boy pretty likeable over in "Edge of Spider-Verse", you feel and root for him. He's also willing to open up to strangers if he finds them trusting. While we learn his full name, Bailey Briggs, we discover he had a photo of his mother which was erased when he was, so we don't see her. And he's a red head!

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#27991: Jun 21st 2023 at 11:43:19 AM

If Peter somehow ends up absorbing Norman's sins for some asinine and contrived reason, then that just makes official the notion that Zeb Wells and Nick Lowe don't get the first thing about Spider-Man.

Because how could such a scenario possibly come to that?

knightstorm Since: Feb, 2022
#27992: Jun 21st 2023 at 11:51:37 AM

Honestly...making Peter officially a villain would be the completion of the character degradation started with OMD. He made a selfish deal with the Devil...and all of the characters have been the absolute worst versions of themselves ever since. The fall to the darkside would finally be complete.

Edited by knightstorm on Jun 21st 2023 at 11:53:23 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#27993: Jun 21st 2023 at 11:54:16 AM

no no,Peter will now be even more marketable as an anti villain!

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#27995: Jun 21st 2023 at 12:06:29 PM

Honestly do it. Maybe "The Spider" could be entertaining rather than sadsack Peter. At least for a bit.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#27996: Jun 21st 2023 at 12:13:20 PM

Maybe seeing Peter as a villain will cause Ben to pull a face turn out of disgust.

"Dear Lord, is that what I look like as a bad guy?"

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#27997: Jun 21st 2023 at 12:24:12 PM

I favor Ben Reilly taking over Parker Industries and living the Dan Schlott life with Janine.

He can be Homer's half-brother, Herb.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#27998: Jun 21st 2023 at 12:27:19 PM

I can see a scenario where Peter would soak up the sins to stop Norman falling to the dark side again. Or to protect the resurrected Dr. Kafka. Because putting himself in the way to protect others is very much what he does.

Whether it'd be written in a way that makes it a decent story is another matter.

TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#27999: Jun 21st 2023 at 12:31:57 PM

[up][up] There isn't a Parker Industries left for Ben to take over. It was completely dissolved and its assets sold off after Peter was forced to completely destroy Webware (the system that all of PI's products and services were built off of) in order to stop Otto from using PI's tech to help HYDRA!Cap during that whole "Secret Empire" debacle. Maybe Ben could end up somehow acquiring the rights to the name, but that's about all he'd have.

Edited by TrashJack on Jun 21st 2023 at 3:32:07 PM

"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#28000: Jun 21st 2023 at 12:58:12 PM

Yeah but Beyond Corporation bought it all so Ben can get it in a settlement.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.

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