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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

  • Apart from the main Marvel Universe titles, Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man "What If?" stories, crossovers, guest appearances in other books, Alternate Universe tales and things like Marvel's manga adaptations are all on-topic here.
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  • Characters and comics that originated in Spider-Man but are no longer directly connected to the spider-franchise (e.g. Punisher, Silver Sable) are not on-topic, unless you're discussing historical connections and crossovers. If in doubt, check before you write a long post. If this isn't the right place, there's a more general Marvel Comics thread which covers them.

Technically, Marvel's Infinity Comics (and their predecessors, Infinite Comics) are webcomics, not comic books, but it's fine to talk about their Spider-Man stories here.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

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Goku Black
#27951: Jun 20th 2023 at 7:43:30 AM

On the plus side. They did retcon the amazing friends spiderman death thing. Thankfully.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#27952: Jun 20th 2023 at 7:44:54 AM

I think ALL the deaths in Spider-Verse got reversed or some shit.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#27953: Jun 20th 2023 at 7:48:17 AM

Yeah with the latest event all the dead Spiders got rez and we got introduced to the long lost sidekick Spider-boy

Which I say Dan Slott's way of apologizing while still having his trolling fun.

I want a story with Assasin Spider ngl

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#27954: Jun 20th 2023 at 7:52:18 AM

Speaking of Assassin Spidey, I will say, I actually prefer him over Punisher Spidey, at least this one has an actual reason to start killing besides a costume change.

Granted, I also wish MJ was with him. She's pretty good with a shotgun.

I think Assassin Spidey's girlfriend is dead. His Wolverine def is.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Jun 20th 2023 at 10:52:42 PM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#27955: Jun 20th 2023 at 8:06:23 AM

I’m more pro-Slott than most but I agree some of the alternate Spideys’ deaths verged on spiteful. Hostess Universe in particular - he dies because his pastries fail to work on Morlun, even though the rules of him universe are that pastries always work.

Admittedly Morlun is from a different universe, so maybe he’s not bound by the rules of the universes he visits?

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#27956: Jun 20th 2023 at 8:07:40 AM

If that's the case, then he wouldn't be affected by how the newspaper strip verse works.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#27957: Jun 20th 2023 at 8:14:44 AM

[up] Ah, didn’t know about that one. So it was just a plot hole then.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#27958: Jun 20th 2023 at 8:19:53 AM

Maybe it's because Morlun doesn't actually eat like normal people and can only feed on Spider-Totems?

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#27959: Jun 20th 2023 at 8:27:08 AM

It would have been hilarious if the pastries did work on Morlun and he got pissed and left

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TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#27960: Jun 20th 2023 at 8:34:46 AM

re: MvC-Spidey's death being ignored by Capcom with Infinite:

I've got three hypotheses as to how this Continuity Snarl might still be able to make sense in-canon.

1. The kid playing the game popped in some more quarters, which brought Capcom-verse Spidey back independently of the other Spiders that Morlun killed and consumed (who would all have to wait until he got stabbed with the cursed dagger in End of the Spider-Verse). All hail The Almighty Quarter Dollar!

2. Infinite doesn't share the same universe as the other Capcom crossovers, so that particular Spidey never encountered Morlun. Though this is not supported by Fandom's Marvel wiki, which does claim that Infinite is in the same universe. Not sure if there's an official source claiming that they do share the same universe as X-Men vs. Street Fighter to Marvel vs. Capcom 3.

3. Time-space shenanigans between universes ensured that from the kid's perspective, all the Spiders that Morlun killed came back (as mentioned above) just after he stopped playing the game.

No matter which of them (if any) is true, that kid is going to spend a lot of time and quarters in vain to fight the secret character "Morlun" again, and he'll spend much of his life trying to convince other fighting game fans that Morlun isn't just some Urban Legend of Zelda that he made up.

Edited by TrashJack on Jun 20th 2023 at 11:36:05 AM

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#27961: Jun 20th 2023 at 8:51:31 AM

That is also hilarious

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#27962: Jun 20th 2023 at 8:56:38 AM

They should do a followup story on that kid.

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FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#27963: Jun 20th 2023 at 9:05:22 AM

@Red Hunter 53 Alex, Assasin Spidey's gf is still alive because he knocked her out after Karn incinerated Wolverine.

Assasin knew he was the target so no point in her getting killed.

Wolverine probably still alive as Marvel is never consistent on if incineration will kill him

Days of Future Past? Dead

Civil War? Tis but a flesh wound and he's healed up

Also funny Across the Spider-Verse ignoring the comics "dead" spiders where we see Unlimited Spidey safe and sound

Edited by FKJ10 on Jun 20th 2023 at 9:08:25 AM

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#27964: Jun 20th 2023 at 9:29:37 AM

Dan Slott even made it a point to say Spidey Unlimited is ALSO the 90s Spider-Man even though both shows are unrelated.

They are? I keep seeing conflicting comments about whether or not Unlimited was a sequel to TAS.

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#27965: Jun 20th 2023 at 9:33:51 AM

[up][up] As already explained to you, Slott restored all the 'dead' Spiders to life after Morlun got stabbed with the mystical dagger in End of Spider-Verse, so it's likely Across took place after that story.

Edited by Zarius on Jun 20th 2023 at 9:36:52 AM

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#27966: Jun 20th 2023 at 9:45:40 AM

Wolvie surviving the Civil War incineration was a special circumstance, wasn’t it? Some kind of boon from/deal with an angel of death?

FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#27967: Jun 20th 2023 at 10:02:05 AM

[up][up] Nah for the simple reason Noir is alive in ITSV when he died unceremoniously in Spider Geddon which was made to promote the movie.

Plus Peter B. Parker is designated as 616 Spidey who's story went in every direction the main comics were afraid to do so.

Aunt May passing away.

Peter and MJ divorcing like normal people then getting back together.

Mayday being born.

All while pushing 40.

The movies may reference the classic comics but clearly stopped paying attention to them around the JMS time frame while for the Ultimate stuff only grabbed Miles' story and Green Goblin's more monstrous design.

Edited by FKJ10 on Jun 20th 2023 at 10:05:15 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#27968: Jun 20th 2023 at 10:15:04 AM

We did get a new Noir book but it was more based on the Spider-Verse film Noir so it took a more light-hearted approach.

Which might be an issue if you enjoyed the more serious darker storytelling of the prior Noir stories.

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Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#27969: Jun 20th 2023 at 10:35:01 AM

[up][up] They retconned him to being from 616B in the sequel.

Either way, still not in the same universe as the comics, though.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#27970: Jun 20th 2023 at 10:41:15 AM

You’d think radiation would be a counter to Wolverine since radiation poisoning damages the body’s ability to heal and even damages the DNA. But I’m pretty sure Wolverine has walked off radiation exposure.

I know for a fact that Laura Wolverine has, as recent as Captain Marvel 47

Edited by Bocaj on Jun 20th 2023 at 1:41:44 PM

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FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#27971: Jun 20th 2023 at 11:14:46 AM

As Dreadpool pointed out in Deadpool kills the Marvel Universe Logan's true power is "popularity"

i.e. He'll survive whatever logical weakness should kill him because the plot demands it.

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#27972: Jun 20th 2023 at 11:16:52 AM

[up][up] This is the Marvel Universe, though - radiation gives powers, it doesn't take them away.

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#27973: Jun 20th 2023 at 11:28:49 AM

[up] With a few exceptions, of course.

I seem to remember one character - the appropriately named Achilles (not that one, but also descended from one of the MU's gods) - who was completely invulnerable, but discovered that gamma radiation cancelled his powers.

Naturally, he discovered this due to the Hulk.

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#27975: Jun 20th 2023 at 11:34:19 AM

Yeah, but gamma is magical now.

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