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Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM
Speaking of Kamala, it's pretty symbolic at how she's used as a prop for a Spider-Man story so Peter can ANGST over her, since she's actually a legit young marvel hero who appeals to the younger generation of readers, while Spider-Man's fans have been clamoring for him to finally grow up and move on as an adult.
So it's extra fucked up that Marvel kills off a character like Kamala for the benefit of a Spider-Man story in a run that's meant to stagnant Peter and keep him a loser because that's what the editorial thinks is his appeal.
"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"I feel like the old and creaky comment makes more sense if it's a comment that even in his 20's Peter's body is already worn down from the decade of superhero work
Even his regen can't fully recover from all the times he got shocked, crushed, stabbed, suffocated, bitten, torn, shot, and just generally every other kind of ailment possible.
It's a lot and of course he's wearing his body out faster.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."Nick Lowe revealed in the letters page of this week's ASM that a "marvel legend" wrote them a long letter in private that critiqued the way the book is being written. It was in response to a reader who was concerned about the pacing and decompression of the story. Wonder who it was?
Lowe also got a critical letter from someone who was annoyed that they only seemed to run feedback that was positive (or "butt kissing" as the reader put it), Lowe took issue with this but said he gets worse feedback off of twitter (indicating also that most tweeters don't read the book in full), and citing that if anything will cause a course correction, it's when sales are lacking, but they're good for now so they're carrying on.
Kinda curious what the letters about Kamala's death will be like. You gotta imagine they'll be getting some angry ones. Like, if that letters page isn't at least half negative, then it's safe to assume they're cherry-picking.
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I was just about to ask if anyone saw that.
Yeah, when "a legendary Spidey creator"
writes in to ask "bruh, what the actual hell are you doing over there," then all the red flags just turned into a huge mega red flag with flashing neon lights that read "seriously, things are FUBAR over here!"
Speaking of red flags, ASM 27 showed that Peter kept Kamala's mask and I guess it's supposed to have a memento of her, but A, he barely knew her secret identity and B, wouldn't it have been more appropriate to give it to Miles, who actually knew her or heck, her family? This just screams that Zeb Wells and Nick Lowe are either not reading the room or just refusing to read the room because you'd have to be living under a particularly thick rock to not realize all this is wrong.
And speaking of wrong, not only does Peter sleep with the mask, which has implications I'd rather not say out loud, but Kamala's death is being spun as the start of Norman's redemption or something? Which...EHHHH?!? A more competent writer would've explored how MJ felt that a girl she didn't know got herself killed just to keep MJ safe, but NOPE! Old Zeb don't like to delve into girlies for too long because OOOH COOTIES! (Or something.)
Seriously, can we officially consider this run a masterclass in how not to write Spider-Man comics in general? Please?
Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Jun 15th 2023 at 9:38:25 AM
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I feel like, if Kamala had been a real supporting character, ASM would have had Peter go talk to her family about what happened. Instead, they're doing that "Fallen Friend" or whatever it's called as a separate comic, allowing them to not have to spend a single panel of ASM thinking about the feelings of anyone actually connected to Kamala. Because she wasn't a genuine supporting character, she was a marketing-driven sacrifice to set up her return as her movie version. Honestly, Wells has written plenty of good stuff, so I am inclined to think her inclusion here was driven by either editorial or, even more likely, marketing. Someone in marketing said, "Hey, find a way to make her a mutant with energy powers." Lowe and Wells just got hit with that shitball.
Edited by Tiamatty on Jun 15th 2023 at 4:23:23 AM
X-Men X-Pert, my blog where I talk about X-Men comics.CBR wrote an article on the need for an adult Spider-Man show
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Feels odd to call one of the most acrobatic supers old and creaky but it might be cause she's rubber.