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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

  • Apart from the main Marvel Universe titles, Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man "What If?" stories, crossovers, guest appearances in other books, Alternate Universe tales and things like Marvel's manga adaptations are all on-topic here.
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  • Characters and comics that originated in Spider-Man but are no longer directly connected to the spider-franchise (e.g. Punisher, Silver Sable) are not on-topic, unless you're discussing historical connections and crossovers. If in doubt, check before you write a long post. If this isn't the right place, there's a more general Marvel Comics thread which covers them.

Technically, Marvel's Infinity Comics (and their predecessors, Infinite Comics) are webcomics, not comic books, but it's fine to talk about their Spider-Man stories here.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#27751: Jun 13th 2023 at 3:00:01 AM

[up] She comes back in this issue, correct. She's still Queen Goblin

Edited by Zarius on Jun 13th 2023 at 3:00:24 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#27752: Jun 13th 2023 at 5:51:59 PM

Ah, the clone, not the real deal.

Well it would be a shame not to use this Goblin.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#27753: Jun 13th 2023 at 6:31:04 PM

Well the clones are just excuses for resurrection.

Doctor Strange said that, for some reason, all of the Ben Reilly clones have the souls of the people they were cloned from.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#27754: Jun 13th 2023 at 6:36:22 PM

But then, what about Hobie Brown? He was cloned when he was still alive IIRC.

...Actually when did Strange say that?

Edited by RedHunter543 on Jun 13th 2023 at 9:36:44 PM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#27755: Jun 13th 2023 at 6:40:10 PM

When he was examining the Lizard's kids for Peter.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Dracoblade Since: May, 2009
#27756: Jun 13th 2023 at 10:23:55 PM

So here's something interesting; apparently, Spidey's black suit debuted a full year before Secret Wars, meaning fans suddenly had this new black suit from nowhere with no explanation whatsoever. No wonder a large portion loathed the change at the time.

Found here:

Edited by Dracoblade on Jun 13th 2023 at 10:24:18 AM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#27757: Jun 13th 2023 at 10:27:02 PM

The way Secret Wars happened, the characters went to this weird ring shaped construct and disappeared at the end of one issue. And then reappeared in the next issue with intriguing changes so Marvel could be like "check out Secret Wars!"

Many of the changes didn't last the year it took in some cases to get to the explanation.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#27758: Jun 13th 2023 at 10:57:34 PM

Reposting cause he meant a lot for Spider-Man

John Romita Sr., Legendary Marvel Artist, Dies at 93

RIP

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
RedM Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
#27759: Jun 14th 2023 at 12:58:33 AM

Legend. ASM #39 is one of the best covers of all time.

The very best, like no one ever was. Check out my Spider-Man fanfic here! [1]
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#27760: Jun 14th 2023 at 9:05:20 AM

RIP to the king.

Without him we wouldn't have kingpin, bullseye, luke cage, the rose, shocker, sandman , vulture,hobgoblin and of course Mj, punisher and wolverine. A truly accomplished career.

Edited by miraculous on Jun 14th 2023 at 9:14:06 AM

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#27761: Jun 14th 2023 at 9:17:59 AM

[up] Vulture and Sandman were introduced in Ditko's run

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#27762: Jun 14th 2023 at 9:20:17 AM

Ah right yeah. Sandman was. My bad.

weird. Wikipedia adds vulture as one of his. Must be an error.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#27763: Jun 14th 2023 at 9:23:37 AM

[up] I think it's referring to the second Vulture that Stan briefly replaced Tooms with, Romita drew him. I remember he teamed with Kraven

Edited by Zarius on Jun 14th 2023 at 9:23:57 AM

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#27764: Jun 14th 2023 at 11:07:46 AM

ASM#27

Umm... Peter took Kamala's mask and plays/sleeps with it?

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#27765: Jun 14th 2023 at 11:43:08 AM

What even in is this run at this Point?

This has to be some kind of attempt to see if the fanbase can be united in hating something

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#27766: Jun 14th 2023 at 1:18:09 PM

[up][up] You're making it sound worse than it is, and frankly it's already bad enough

Peter falls asleep while holding it, which he does thinking about her death. Yeah it's weird that he even has it to begin with, but he's not playing with it or deliberately sleeping with it or something.

reppuzan Since: Dec, 2014
#27767: Jun 14th 2023 at 1:57:24 PM

[up]

He still took Kamala's mask from her corpse and keeps it as a memento, which is still weird and creepy. It only worsens the tonal whiplash when Doc Ock's lovestruck harness tucks him into bed.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#27768: Jun 14th 2023 at 5:54:59 PM

This feels like some kind of messed up attempt at trying to boost Kamala's profile.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#27769: Jun 14th 2023 at 9:40:24 PM

The sad fact is I'd love to have seen more Ms. Marvel and Spider-Man crossovers.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#27770: Jun 14th 2023 at 9:42:31 PM

Not like this man, not like this. sad

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#27771: Jun 14th 2023 at 9:49:51 PM

I remember that crossover they had where they body swapped. She spent that story talking about how Peter's body was old and creaky.

Which was probably why she was marked for death.

Speak not the heresy of Peter being anything but hip and relatable.

Edited by Bocaj on Jun 14th 2023 at 12:50:05 PM

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#27772: Jun 14th 2023 at 9:54:32 PM

NGL, how Peter is written at points really gives me "How do you do fellow kids" energy.

Like I'm supposed to be target demographic according to marvel, I'm still younger than 23 and Spider-Man feels like those middle aged dudes trying to act hip and happening.

Doesn't help a plot line like Paul cucking him with MJ isn't exactly relatable to 20 year olds.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#27773: Jun 14th 2023 at 10:32:14 PM

Marvel: "Peter being single and miserable will definitely make him more relatable to young readers, right?"

Me: Actually, I'm in my very early twenties and I grew up reading comics with the Spider-Marriage and vastly prefer it as the status quo...

Marvel: SHUT UP YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU LIKE! Now here's The Continued Adventures of Paul Guest Starring The Amazing Spider-Man. Love it or we're killing Nova next.

Me: Pfft. Like I could care less abou-

Marvel: Richard, not Sam.

Me: ...I'll be good.

Edited by lbssb on Jun 14th 2023 at 1:40:23 PM

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#27774: Jun 14th 2023 at 11:30:32 PM

I'm in my FORTIES and I grew up with Spider-Man married to Mary Jane.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#27775: Jun 14th 2023 at 11:33:30 PM

Yeah while Ultimate Spider-Man was my jam as a kid, the run I read of the main one was JMS Spidey.

Plus collections of the old stuff.

....Man, MJ's dialogue is pretty hard to understand looking back.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"

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