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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

  • Apart from the main Marvel Universe titles, Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man "What If?" stories, crossovers, guest appearances in other books, Alternate Universe tales and things like Marvel's manga adaptations are all on-topic here.
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Technically, Marvel's Infinity Comics (and their predecessors, Infinite Comics) are webcomics, not comic books, but it's fine to talk about their Spider-Man stories here.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#27676: Jun 8th 2023 at 9:29:21 PM

If Batman was in Spider-Man's corner of the MU, I could totally see him as Bruce Wayne hiring Shocker and Sandman to fight crime and help out Spider-Man.

Knowing those two, they'd go for it.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Tiamatty X-Men X-Pert from Now on Twitter Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Brony
#27677: Jun 8th 2023 at 9:33:00 PM

[up][up][up] He actually went up against Ms. Marvel, in a really fun story that involved him building some sort of weird tech that interfered with her powers in a way that sent her travelling through time and dimensions until Singularity returned her home. One of Singularity's few appearances outside of A-Force, I wish we got more of her. (I also wish we'd had the chance to see her being gender-fluid explored. That was part of the original idea for her, she took on a female form because she was surrounded by women, but she was actually intended to be gender-fluid.)

Edited by Tiamatty on Jun 8th 2023 at 12:33:15 PM

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#27678: Jun 8th 2023 at 11:10:45 PM

Shocker is a professional jobber for Spider-Man but he's a good jobber and not forgettable.

He robs banks.

He does it for cash.

It's not really personal.

And because of his ease of utility, Shocker is usually in Spider-Man's spin off media despite being no one's particular favorite and wearing a yellow oven mitt as a mask.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#27679: Jun 8th 2023 at 11:20:52 PM

Reminds me of the Spider-Man PS 2 game where when Spidey first confronts Shocker, he attempts to guess the villain's name, throwing out "Quilt-Man," "Padded Pete," "Mr. Triple Ply" and "The Cushion."

And this. "OH NO! He's going to insulate my house! Maybe he will touch me and his costume will make me all itchy!"

The Protomen enhanced my life.
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#27680: Jun 9th 2023 at 1:42:13 AM

Though he got his butt kicked by She Hulk way back when he was a part of the Masters of Evil during the Trial of Hank Pym.

No shame in losing to a Hulk though.

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#27681: Jun 9th 2023 at 2:38:05 AM

A friend on Discord had a chat with Ron Frenz over at a convention and Ron said that Pat Olliffe's reunited with Tom Defalco for a secret Marvel project.

New Mayday?

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#27682: Jun 9th 2023 at 2:38:52 AM

I hope so.

I've been re-reading Spider-Girl. Still holds up.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#27683: Jun 9th 2023 at 2:47:41 AM

[up] Oh yes, it's a lovely series, I know some can't get past some of the more melodramatic writing but I think towards the end of the runs Tom was doing his best to adapt, and Frenz was at a career best around that period. He needs more work. Both of them do.

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#27684: Jun 9th 2023 at 5:46:43 AM

Marvel.com have an article up about Judas Traveller

They make a very specific mention of Amazing Spider-Man#402...the issue where Traveller offered to revive Aunt May and Peter rejected him

Edited by Zarius on Jun 9th 2023 at 5:51:43 AM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#27685: Jun 9th 2023 at 7:29:13 AM

A friend on Discord had a chat with Ron Frenz over at a convention and Ron said that Pat Olliffe's reunited with Tom Defalco for a secret Marvel project.

New Mayday?

For those of you scratching your heads, Tom DeFalco and Ron Frenz are the creators of Mayday. So a potential new Mayday series would be welcome (especially if it pisses off Nick Lowe and Dan Slott).

Marvel.com have an article up about Judas Traveller

They make a very specific mention of Amazing Spider-Man#402...the issue where Traveller offered to revive Aunt May and Peter rejected him

Is there really a purpose for these articles? Because first we got the one about Peter's multiversal family and now we have this article about a bad guy mutant who offered to revive Aunt May as was a general pain in the ass during The Clone Saga. Maybe I'm reading too much into this?

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#27686: Jun 9th 2023 at 7:33:13 AM

The Peter’s family article was probably because Mayday appears in Spider-Verse.

The Traveller one is probably because he’s suddenly a major X-villain now after two decades of dormancy and the average fan probably has no idea where he came from.

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Goku Black
#27687: Jun 9th 2023 at 8:02:05 AM

Why did they do that? I thought him and scrier are considered some of the worst parts in that ?

Mind you it was probably became they were way out of line power wise to be spiderman villains.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#27688: Jun 9th 2023 at 8:03:05 AM

They have a villain in storage and someone thought they could salvage him, I guess...

Wake me up at your own risk.
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#27689: Jun 9th 2023 at 8:06:58 AM

It’s a sorta natural move

Judas Traveller was created to give spider man an 90s x-men style villain. With vague but powerful powers and mysteriousssssss instead of character

Edited by Bocaj on Jun 9th 2023 at 11:07:27 AM

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#27690: Jun 9th 2023 at 8:08:47 AM

That someone, incidentally, is Steve Orlando, KING of deep-cut mutants. His books have featured, among others, the returns of Birdy, Thumbelina, Armageddon Man, the Alchemist, and EYE SCREAM, a gag villain from a one-off promotional comic!

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#27691: Jun 9th 2023 at 8:20:13 AM

Was it Spider-Man that retconned his origin and cosmic powers to make him a manipulative psychic rather than a world-shaking immortal? Or was that X-books too?

Would be interesting to see Peter confront him again nowadays.

For that matter, what happened to Scrier? I only have a vague awareness of the character... did they get retooled somehow, killed off, or just shoved out of sight?

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#27692: Jun 9th 2023 at 8:25:18 AM

[up] Scrier I believe was retconned into being an entire cult called Scrier that worked for Norman Osborn. Kaine ended up picking most of them off, though some survived and just kind of vanished after a while.

They still showed up in Mayday comics though

Edited by Zarius on Jun 9th 2023 at 8:26:18 AM

TheEvilDrBolty Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
#27693: Jun 9th 2023 at 10:33:22 AM

No shame in losing to a Hulk though.

I just want to mention that this is a terribly funny thing to say about the Shocker, because there's this amazing scene in Charles Soule's She-Hulk series where he says that villains have a ranking system for the heroes. You fight your Iron Fists or Daredevils, because you might actually win, but you never fight Hulks and you never fight Thors.

(When She-Hulk asks about "Thor" being plural, he says yeah, there's girl-Thor (this was just before Jane showed up) and fat-Thor, and when Shulkie asks if he means Valkyrie and Volstagg, Shocker doubles down that "THEY'RE ALL THORS.")

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#27694: Jun 9th 2023 at 10:35:27 AM

I was a Spider-Man fan at the time.

I really liked that issue where he offered to bring back Aunt May.

Spider-Man beats the crap out of him and says, "You are so full of ****! You're not god."

Which was a nice rebuttal and shows how Spider-Man would react to say, Mephisto.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#27695: Jun 9th 2023 at 11:04:12 AM

Dan Slott interview

New Superior Spider-Man book is a #0 issue which sets things up for a big anniversary for the concept, and that they'll do something 'new' to it, he returns to ASM with a short story in #31, and then something else which will become obvious when everyone 'figures it out'.

I think the obvious thing is he's probably writing Ultimate Spider-Man when the line relaunches.

knightstorm Since: Feb, 2022
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#27697: Jun 9th 2023 at 12:32:55 PM

I think the obvious thing is he's probably writing Ultimate Spider-Man when the line relaunches.

Should've been Chip Zdarsky if you ask me.

Sircray Since: Apr, 2018
#27698: Jun 9th 2023 at 12:35:56 PM

Scrier I believe was retconned into being an entire cult called Scrier that worked for Norman Osborn. Kaine ended up picking most of them off, though some survived and just kind of vanished after a while.

And DeMatteis eventually got around to revealing in his Silver Surfer that they weren't just LARPing weirdoes and that the nebulous, reality-warping entity that they worship is real.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#27699: Jun 9th 2023 at 12:48:48 PM

DeMatteis created a bunch of cosmic entities nobody else ever uses. The real Scrier, an Eldritch Abomination called the Other, and I’m told his Man-Thing run had a collection of entities claiming to be the embodiments of TOAA’s dreams, but I know basically nothing about that run.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#27700: Jun 9th 2023 at 1:52:47 PM

[up]for a second I misread the Other as the Otter and now I want my cosmic mustelid Marvel


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