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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

  • Apart from the main Marvel Universe titles, Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man "What If?" stories, crossovers, guest appearances in other books, Alternate Universe tales and things like Marvel's manga adaptations are all on-topic here.
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Technically, Marvel's Infinity Comics (and their predecessors, Infinite Comics) are webcomics, not comic books, but it's fine to talk about their Spider-Man stories here.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#27651: Jun 8th 2023 at 4:02:49 AM

That "Parker Family" article from Marvel is careful with it's words regarding the precise fate of 616 Baby May, saying it's 'uncertain' what happened to her and that Peter and MJ only believe she was stillborn.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#27652: Jun 8th 2023 at 6:30:22 AM

[up] Whoever wrote that must really want to cook, but they can't go too deep lest they invoke the wrath of Big Lowe (you know, like Big Brother and Nick Lowe?).

But seriously, I can't imagine that having their work be singled out as everything that's wrong about the Spider-Books via everyone's buzzing about how awesome ATSV turned out is going to be good for Nick Lowe, Zeb Wells, and C.B. Cebulski.

Worse, you even have people calling them out for not having books on Spider-Punk, Spider-Man India, Spider-Man 2099, or heck, even an ongoing Spider-Men book where it's just Peter and Miles teaming up and doing stuff, because we've seen that pair work both in father/son and big bro/little bro versions.

So it's practically leaving money on the table like a bunch of boneheads. Like, even the Three Stooges would think the Spider-Office is being stupid.

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#27653: Jun 8th 2023 at 7:01:13 AM

[up] Spider-Punk's mini wasn't that long ago, and I'm expecting a sequel announcement to accompany the film.

The new Spider-Man India series starts next week. The last Spider-Man 2099 limited series ended last week.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jun 8th 2023 at 3:02:48 PM

Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#27654: Jun 8th 2023 at 8:35:57 AM

I am getting a kick out of Miles and Gargan's...well, respect isn't the right word.

Like, Miles just doesn't want anyone to die. And Gargan respects this young kid putting so much effort into keeping him from dying. And they both want/are hired to stop Cletus so hey, might as well work together.

#IceBearForPresident
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#27656: Jun 8th 2023 at 9:08:40 AM

I thought this comic came out or is it a different one ?

Also why does Peter care so much. He and Kamilla barely now each other. She's Miles friend.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#27657: Jun 8th 2023 at 9:34:26 AM

[up][up] ...Oh cripes, I can't even. sad

[up] Knowing Peter, he's probably under the impression that Kamala's gone because of him. Even though turning into MJ to fool Rabin was 100% her idea. (Here we strike a death glare at Zeb Wells for that piece of OOC BS.)

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#27658: Jun 8th 2023 at 9:41:09 AM

Calling it now that Kamala will get resurrected as a mutant.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#27659: Jun 8th 2023 at 9:45:12 AM

[up]

Everyone has made that call.

The good news is, you’re still right.

So…will Kamala’s friends and family hate Peter and Spider-Man for getting her killed?

That seems like the kind of thing that would happen to him.

One Strip! One Strip!
knightstorm Since: Feb, 2022
#27660: Jun 8th 2023 at 9:53:31 AM

They're really trying their best to force a connection between Peter and Kamala despite them having only spoken like 5 sentences to each other.

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#27661: Jun 8th 2023 at 11:18:59 AM

Amazing Spider-Man#27 preview

Peter is still grieving Kamala, so Felicia decides to loosen him up with an exciting battle with The Shocker that she sets up...and goes as far as 'flirt' with Herman (even if it's to disable him), Peter's not having any of these games

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#27662: Jun 8th 2023 at 11:35:47 AM

....Felicia that is a horrible way to help someone who is grieving a death. I guess the bad writing had to hit her some time.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#27663: Jun 8th 2023 at 11:47:40 AM

I might be speaking blasphemy, but this wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't Felicia's attempt at cheering Peter up. But it is, so let's go and crap on Zeb Wells some more.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#27664: Jun 8th 2023 at 1:36:34 PM

Poor Shocker, maybe he'll be a better support than Felicia.

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#27665: Jun 8th 2023 at 2:18:21 PM

I feel bad for Herman. Like you know full well Peter wouldn't treat any of his other main rogues as a joke to beat up because he needs to vent.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#27666: Jun 8th 2023 at 2:21:43 PM

If we ever get a new Web Warriors title, hopefully the writer isn't like the last one and skilled Gwen at the expense of everyone else

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#27667: Jun 8th 2023 at 3:53:35 PM

Shouldn't Shocker be incredible effective at fighting symbiotes? Or has that potentially gone down the drain?

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#27668: Jun 8th 2023 at 4:43:20 PM

[up][up][up] I remember Spider-Man during a REALLY bad day beat the shit out of Scorpion who was considering quitting crime.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#27669: Jun 8th 2023 at 8:05:32 PM

Or the infamous SHOCKER from Symbiote!Spider-man back in TAS.

Man can't catch a break.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#27670: Jun 8th 2023 at 8:26:58 PM

I loved it when Shocker took Peter Parker down in Ultimate and had him dead to rights and Spider-Man had no idea about his history at all.

A very Spot-like scene.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#27671: Jun 8th 2023 at 8:33:01 PM

It helps that Ultimate Shocker is more pathetic than regular Shocker.

Who I would like to remind people actually beat Spider-Man in their first encounter even if Spidey had a broken arm.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#27672: Jun 8th 2023 at 9:05:46 PM

Shocker is in that weird place of Spider-man villains where fans know and respect him but he never gets top billing like Goblin, Venom or Doc Ock or an famously great story like "Kraven Last Hunt."

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#27673: Jun 8th 2023 at 9:07:38 PM

Superior Foes of Spider-Man did give him a boost though.

He even came out on top in that story. Relatively.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#27674: Jun 8th 2023 at 9:11:41 PM

It would be cool to see other heroes take on Shocker and him give them a lot of trouble due to how good his tech is and how skilled he's gotten from years as a super villain.

As I recall, he acquitted himself well in a fight against Luke Cage, Iron Fist and a few others in an issue of The Superior Foes of Spider-Man.

He was apparently the only one who actually put up something resembling a fight.

Though he got his butt kicked by She Hulk way back when he was a part of the Masters of Evil during the Trial of Hank Pym.

Herman's stayed in the game as long as he has because he's been more focused on cash then on big revenge power plays. He's gets in, he gets out.

....He'd make a good Thunderbolt if he could get them to pay him. Or a good partner for Taskmaster, since the former is also more about the money than anything.

One Strip! One Strip!
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#27675: Jun 8th 2023 at 9:28:08 PM

One of the few supervillains to beat the Punisher

Forever liveblogging the Avengers

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