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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#27451: Jun 3rd 2023 at 3:45:09 AM

[up] Does JMS know that? Either way, a Yes is just a Yes at this point.

Would be good to see him back on Spidey but, honestly, JMS on almost any Marvel title would be good.

Edward45 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#27452: Jun 3rd 2023 at 5:53:58 AM

I'm sorry, but after his run in Superman I don't have any faith in JMS.

FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#27453: Jun 3rd 2023 at 5:58:40 AM

[up][up][up][up] Clones (and hypnotism) got rid of the Sins Past twins and replaced the image of Norman plowing Gwen who fell for his "animalistic masculinity".....with Norman fucking Mysterio in a wig.

I'll forever thank Nick Spencer for that.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#27454: Jun 3rd 2023 at 6:10:06 AM

Is that "mystery event" the thing that was simply listed as "CLASSIFIED" in the solicits? The rumor I've heard about that is resurrecting Kamala, but no idea if it's true.

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#27455: Jun 3rd 2023 at 6:18:17 AM

[up] I would be sad, if unsurprised, if Kamala's resurrection gets written by a white guy who knows relatively little about Pakistani-American culture or Islam. Not sure if all of that applies to JMS, but...

Not saying that people should only write characters who reflect their own identity, but there has been an embarrassing level of Getting It Wrong in the past.

Inventing evil Mayan gods who have no actual Mayan history behind them, for example.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jun 3rd 2023 at 2:18:50 PM

FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#27456: Jun 3rd 2023 at 6:38:58 AM

It's a simple case of not bothering to do the research and using a mythology most American are unfamiliar with using made up names that sound cool and hoping no one bothers to look up.

Basically the anti FATE which does do research into myths and legends.....while making a good poriton of them into waifus for merchandise and Gacha.

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#27457: Jun 3rd 2023 at 7:16:16 AM

The event was what reportedly got JMS the job on Captain America, I think it was implied in the interview Cap is a part of the event and all the bits involving him impressed the senior editors so they offered JMS the book.

Edited by Zarius on Jun 3rd 2023 at 7:16:32 AM

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#27458: Jun 3rd 2023 at 9:41:54 AM

Turns out Spider-Man: Turn Off the Dark's 1.0 run isn't the first time Spider-Man battled Arachne, as he did so in an Incredible Hercules comic written in 2008.

(TOTD first began life in 2002 and had readings done in 2007 but it didn't become public until 2010 or so.)

EDIT: And on a different Spidey note, this play about a teen in 2004 wanting to kidnap and marry Tobey Maguire will be a thing in July.

Edited by lalalei2001 on Jun 3rd 2023 at 12:56:18 PM

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#27460: Jun 3rd 2023 at 12:24:19 PM

Another of those “lost tales from a past era” books, maybe?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#27461: Jun 3rd 2023 at 12:28:54 PM

Well people do miss the adventures of Sp Ock, plenty of disappointment when the last book ended with Ock getting his old body back and becoming a supervillain

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#27462: Jun 3rd 2023 at 12:39:27 PM

Everyone but Slott writes Doc Ock as a compelling Spider.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#27463: Jun 3rd 2023 at 12:41:41 PM

wild mass guessSpider-Boy IS the Superior Spider-Manwild mass guess

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#27464: Jun 3rd 2023 at 2:38:58 PM

[up]×2

I thought Gage in particular did a great job with Otto.

Edited by Cortez on Jun 3rd 2023 at 6:48:26 AM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#27465: Jun 3rd 2023 at 2:44:44 PM

[up] RedHunter is saying everyone writes SpOck better than Slott.

So you're agreeing with them.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#27466: Jun 3rd 2023 at 2:45:41 PM

Yeah, Christos Gage was my favorite writer for Superior.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Jun 3rd 2023 at 5:45:59 PM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#27467: Jun 3rd 2023 at 3:51:23 PM

[up]×2 I know.

[up]

Another writer who did good with Spdey Ock was Ewing when he wrote him in Mighty Avengers.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#27468: Jun 3rd 2023 at 4:18:08 PM

As long as it’s the second incarnation, who was hilarious and heartwarming I’ll be happy. Please say it is.

Relatedly, please give the fans (me) Ben, Kaine, and “Ethan” teaming up and being Vitriolic Best Buds.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#27469: Jun 3rd 2023 at 4:21:54 PM

I forget did they announce a new Spidey 2099 book?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#27470: Jun 3rd 2023 at 4:22:43 PM

[up][up] Technically, any new Superior would be a third incarnation due to him reclaiming his OG body and losing his memories of being a good guy.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#27471: Jun 3rd 2023 at 4:46:48 PM

I hate that they erased his memories. Otto slipping back into villainy was inevitable, but it sucks that they also took away his character development.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#27472: Jun 3rd 2023 at 4:48:39 PM

I feel like part of the reason Superior VOL 2's ending hit so hard was because it was another cruel reminder that there is no real change in Spider-Man's corner that lasts.

Doc Ock actually had compelling character development in this run, and I liked his supporting cast.

And then Mephisto comes in as the hatchet man.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#27473: Jun 3rd 2023 at 4:56:41 PM

Totally.

I've really (vainly) hoped that there would be some kind of big story ending with Mephisto's various contracts being cancelled. And that would set-up a new status quo which both undid One More Day and gave Otto his memories back or else popped Ethan back into existence.

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#27474: Jun 3rd 2023 at 11:11:35 PM

Otto somehow reversing the deal he made with Mephisto instead of Peter would be totally on-brand for editorial and Slott

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#27475: Jun 3rd 2023 at 11:13:37 PM

I don't see that happening either since it would open up the possibility that Peter could do so as well.

But Marvel Editorial and Slott would more likely reverse Otto's deal than Peter's.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"

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