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Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM
I like how it's trying to evoke and gain the infamy of Death in The Family or The Night Gwen Stacy died but again
Outside one of two odd team ups Kamala had no relationship with Peter beyond "OMG its Spider-Man I'm a huge fan". If this was Miles this would have made sense as those two are attached to the hip of Miles isn't with Spider-Gwen. To the point Miles made a deal with Memphis to to revive her
Another one of the ASM#26 variants is sort of a Fix Fic for the ending as Spider-Man comforts MJ over the loss of her kids
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MJ and Paul raised the kids for four years in the alternate universe, but they'd only been present in 'our' universe for about six or seven months
And here's that ASM#26 variant I was talking about earlier
Second printing apparently.
Edited by Zarius on Jun 2nd 2023 at 4:23:40 AM
Second printing.
You guys want to know something quirky about these "second printings"?
Someone crunched the numbers
on how many variant covers the ASM runs have gotten.
In a little over a year, Zeb Wells' run (26 issues as of this typing) has already garnered 385 covers while the previous run by Nick Spencer (74 issues) reached 684 covers after 4 years.
What this means is that the Zeb Wells run has been spamming variants just so Marvel can consider it a "best-seller" in the broadest of terms because it wasn't selling as much as they wanted it to on its own. If it sounds scummy, that's because it IS scummy.
And speaking of Fix Fics, someone suggested
that worst case scenario, the next writer can retcon everything from the Zeb Wells run by saying everything so far (the latter half of Beyond, Rabin, Paul/Owen/Stephanie, Dark Web, Kamala's death) was all part of a nightmare Peter was having during his coma while the Spider-Man we saw out of the Spider-Books was really Ben. I mean, it probably contradicts stuff like Zdarsky's Daredevil and Dan Slott's Spider-Man book, but damn it, I'm desperate for this nightmare to end. And do the other creators even pay attention to Slott's stuff anyway?
Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Jun 2nd 2023 at 1:11:59 PM
That reminds me of when Peter David tried to retcon an issue of Amazing Spider-Man to be a dream because Hulk flies in a plane in it, ignoring what that would mean for Spidey.
They're never going to do any sort of "all just a dream" thing. More likely, they'll just find a justification for why the MJ and Paul being trapped in another dimension isn't as bad as it seems. Maybe time moves faster there or something.
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I'd like to see some stats for Marvel as a whole to put that in context.
Looking at the ASM figures the older runs get fewer variants per issue, and Marvel's also doing a lot of line-wide themed variants these days (Disney100, Planet of the Apes, Demonized, Predator, Window Shades, Miracleman, AAPI heritage month) - many of which then get doubled for Wells' ASM because it ships twice that month.
(And sometimes a ridiculous number of variants for first issues - e.g. 40 for this ASM #1, but 76 for Gillen's Eternals #1)
There's also a feedback loop - more newsworthy issues or better selling titles get more variants. As do issues with a second printing.
Is it a problem for Marvel as a whole? Maybe. But I'm not immediately seeing evidence they used it to artificially make this particular book their best-selling title.
It may just be that, much as many longstanding fans hate it, it's also found an audience elsewhere, and it's selling well.
Edited by Mrph1 on Jun 2nd 2023 at 8:02:34 PM
Where she was off filming a movie
I guess it wasn’t really a mini since it started another arc before getting cancelled
Forever liveblogging the Avengers...Uh, pretty sure the "time moves faster" bit was already established in the story.
Like, it was the reason why Peter was running like hell to get MJ back (and burning his bridges with everyone else). Because a couple of hours in his world was a couple of years in the other dimension.
Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Jun 2nd 2023 at 6:28:26 AM
Princess Spinstress' comics continue to be a highlight of the entire Spider-Verse. I dearly want there to be a part 3 and for them all to be collected together.
The Protomen enhanced my life.Read the 2022 Ben Reilly: Spider-Man miniseries (which doesn't have a page here I believe).
It's decent, has some good character bits with Ben, and does a fine job of laying out his trust issues and laying the ground for his budding friendships. But it suffers from being waaaaaay too rushed and packed with ideas. I honestly think it should have focused on Lady Octopus as the main villain instead of Spidercide, since that relationship wasn't really explored much during the Clone Saga and actually has some really good potential.
Overall? Like 6.5/10. Great start, good ideas, kind of a cluttered and exposition-heavy middle/ending.
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When has using clones as an Author's Saving Throw ever helped this series?
Edited by windleopard on Jun 3rd 2023 at 2:04:22 PM
JMS replied to a tweet
asking if his upcoming Captain America run is separate from the mystery six-issue event that will be announced at SDCC. JMS replied with just one word: Yes.
What makes this stand out though is the person he replied to is one of the more vocal Spider-Man fans on the platform.

Yeah even though this death is def going to get reversed, this is just such a shitty thing to do to a character like Ms. Marvel.
"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"