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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#27351: May 30th 2023 at 7:06:38 AM

I didn't like it in Ultimate, but I think it was fine in the PS 4 game, it was necessary for that one to work, I guess.

I think MJ as an actress is a much better fit, though, and because the career of a struggling artist goes up and down, it means you can have a bunch of angles with it.

I was also a really big fan of MJ's short lived solo book where she worked on that movie with Mysterio, it was pretty fun.

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#27352: May 30th 2023 at 7:07:46 AM

[up] I recall that book got an extra issue that ended on a cliffhanger that they never followed up on.

Edited by Zarius on May 30th 2023 at 7:08:46 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#27353: May 30th 2023 at 7:09:36 AM

[up][up][up] I would have went with the funny bit where movie Peni grows up into comic Peni

And as a result her whole aesthetic experiences a total genre shift from "How to draw anime" to moody Cyberpunk.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#27354: May 30th 2023 at 7:27:08 AM

MJ witnesses a murder and gets protection programmed to some square state despite her protests

And then she just goes back to NY and never mentions it again

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FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#27355: May 30th 2023 at 8:37:14 AM

Yeah not fond of Doc Ock reincarnated as a cute Japanese girl would rather see more of ITSV!Peni Parker actually liked her more than her comic counterpart.

Mostly because......never a fan of Evangelion so Comic!Peni being a whole reference bored me.

Always more of a indomitable human spirit than indifferent cruelty of the universe kinda guy for my scifi.

So always preferred mechas like G Gundam or TTGL

Plus Peni in the movie smacking scorpion with his own limb after he destroyed her mech was awesome.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#27356: May 30th 2023 at 8:49:05 AM

My issue with movie Peni is that she's a bad parody of anime.

As in she's not really homaging or parodying anything actually associated with anime, instead coming across as a reference to those terrible "How to draw anime" art books that's usually done by people who've never seen an anime in their life.

At least comic Peni is a reference to actual stuff, there's even some Ghost in the Shell jokes with her. There's more substance to the design than a bunch of very archaic cliches the movie version has.

Edited by slimcoder on May 30th 2023 at 8:51:36 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#27357: May 30th 2023 at 9:06:26 AM

Frankly I saw movie Peni, Ham and Noir as the same not really parodying anything specifically but just the genres itself.

So no real issue there as there scenes and comedy were the funniest to me. Mostly carried by there acotrs performances.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#27358: May 30th 2023 at 9:14:51 AM

Well Noir and Ham at least feel like parodies of the genre.

Peni is more that lazy shallow parody of anime that every show already makes. It's not a parody of anything, just this very bland idea of what anime is like to a person who hasn't seen it.

Plus honestly the comic design for the Sp//der mech is way cooler than the ball robot from the show.

Wait a minute, she's a Marvel Mangaverse throwback. It all makes sense now. tongue

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#27359: May 30th 2023 at 9:16:53 AM

Who wants Doc Ock as a Japanese girl? You're getting that in a manga now.

....What?

Edited by windleopard on May 30th 2023 at 5:17:16 PM

Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#27360: May 30th 2023 at 9:19:01 AM

Peni always felt like the biggest afterthought out of the ITSV crew, I have to agree.

Her comics self felt much more like a character while also homaging other shows.

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#27361: May 30th 2023 at 9:41:10 AM

Oh, more ASM#26 spoilers...

Paul is related to Rabin...he's his son. Peter and Paul discuss this, Mary Jane tells Peter that he and Paul are very much the same in that both feel guilty over her ordeal

Edited by Zarius on May 30th 2023 at 9:41:23 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#27362: May 30th 2023 at 9:43:19 AM

......Wow, I don't give a shit.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#27363: May 30th 2023 at 9:44:17 AM

Wow don't care. Can we just be rid of Zeb Wells' characters already.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#27364: May 30th 2023 at 9:45:57 AM

It's incredible how immemorial this run is gonna end up being

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#27365: May 30th 2023 at 10:06:50 AM

On one hand, it explains Why they could never reveal Paul's last name or give his last name to the kids

Oh, and we get an explanation over How Paul punched Peter as Peter has known who Paul was since before the run began...turns out Peter DID punch Paul first, and Paul punches Peter here when he confronts him over being the Emissary's son. MJ knew all along too, understanding his guilt and pain, it reminds her so much of Peter, so basically the only reason she's with him besides the chains is because she hasn't truly moved on from Peter at all

And if this wasn't dumb enough Mary Jane goes into a Bezerker rage when Rabin reveals the children were just pawns and destroys them, Mary Jane decrees that he must die and uses her powers against him recklessly

Edited by Zarius on May 30th 2023 at 10:24:11 AM

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#27366: May 30th 2023 at 10:23:22 AM

Isn't this the second time MJ has dated a guy who was a Replacement Goldfish for Peter? At least when Peter dates someone else, they're different from MJ.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#27367: May 30th 2023 at 10:36:53 AM

Marvel writers hate MJ but don't have the guts to actually remove her from the story.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#27368: May 30th 2023 at 10:38:45 AM

Fans love MJ, and a segment of the writers hate her because they want Peter to be cancelling dates to go do spider man stuff and then to walk sadly away from the camera bemoaning about What Doing The Right Thing costs him

Also ideally they want various women fighting over him

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#27369: May 30th 2023 at 10:39:48 AM

That last part is how Spider-Man turns to bad harem anime. [lol]

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#27370: May 30th 2023 at 10:41:30 AM

This arc's already a bad harem anime!

IT EVEN HAS CUCKING

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#27371: May 30th 2023 at 10:42:31 AM

MJ, Gwen, and a bunch of lesser love interests move into Peter’s apartment. How will he juggle being spider-man while not earning their ire by existing?

Find out on the next episode of No Need For Spider-Man

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#27372: May 30th 2023 at 10:44:09 AM

[up][up] All that's missing is Peter jacking off to the thought of MJ with another man and we are officially at Rent a Girlfriend's level of haremness

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#27373: May 30th 2023 at 10:44:20 AM

[up][up][up] Well Spider-Man is steady with Felicia I think?

[up][up] This is a reference right?

[up] WTF?

Edited by RedHunter543 on May 31st 2023 at 1:44:34 AM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#27374: May 30th 2023 at 10:45:29 AM

[up] It's stable for now, but it's built on the foundation that Peter isn't over MJ and Felicia knows she's a runner up.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#27375: May 30th 2023 at 10:46:52 AM

[up][up] That is an actual thing from the manga

It infamously has the protagonist get visibly erect and having angry mastubatory fantasies of the girl he likes dating other man

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

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