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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

  • Apart from the main Marvel Universe titles, Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man "What If?" stories, crossovers, guest appearances in other books, Alternate Universe tales and things like Marvel's manga adaptations are all on-topic here.
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Technically, Marvel's Infinity Comics (and their predecessors, Infinite Comics) are webcomics, not comic books, but it's fine to talk about their Spider-Man stories here.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#27151: May 26th 2023 at 2:55:26 AM

[up][up] I remember hearing something about the Carnage symbiote identifying as a girl at one time. Maybe it was after giving birth to Toxin?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Tiamatty X-Men X-Pert from Now on Twitter Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Brony
#27152: May 26th 2023 at 3:09:06 AM

[up][up] No, that's definitely a thing. The need for constant escalation ends up making some stories feel less important. A more personal story where no one would be affected other than the characters involved can end up feeling vastly more tense and exciting than "OMG the multiverse is in danger again!"

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#27153: May 26th 2023 at 3:12:55 AM

I love how even Spidey is just annoyed when the latest Spider-Verse event happens.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#27154: May 26th 2023 at 4:15:19 AM

Wonder when the next one is coming. It's maybe to lucrative to kill at this point. I fully expect the game series will adapt it but you know after they finish the main trilogy.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#27155: May 26th 2023 at 8:24:40 AM

You know as much as I hated Morlun for being a generic OP vampire villain.....I'd honestly take an entire run dedicated to him just trying to get his get back on Peter over Mayan God wannabe what his face.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#27156: May 26th 2023 at 8:25:37 AM

I keep forgetting that Peter is in this situation because of a Mayan God or something.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#27157: May 26th 2023 at 8:37:35 AM

[up][up] Or have a "compromise" with Morlun being The Dragon to the main villain.

It makes as much sense as anything else.

Edited by windleopard on May 26th 2023 at 4:38:16 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#27158: May 26th 2023 at 8:37:38 AM

[up][up][up][up] The question is whether Morlun will appear in the next Spider-Verse event

Cause it always has to involve the Inheritors in some way

Edited by slimcoder on May 26th 2023 at 8:37:46 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#27159: May 26th 2023 at 8:41:58 AM

The smartest thing the movies did was just not include the Morluns.

But of course, Sony just had to use their lore for the Kraven movie. Blargh.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#27160: May 26th 2023 at 8:45:09 AM

[up][up][up] Nah as much as I hate Morlun I ain't having him play second fiddle to the homeless bum Rabin (legit had to look up his name).

Only way I'd accept that if Morlun pulls a Starscream at the last moment kills Rabin and Paul the reveals the kids were his vampire clones in disguise and go right back to running the hands with Peter and the other Spider people as MJ just looks flabbergasted in the corner.

@Red Hunter 53 Never forget this all happened because Rabin, a forgettable villain from one issue back in the 2000s, appeared high on magic and teleported Peter & MJ to another dimension where Paul was the only adult male alive.

Edited by FKJ10 on May 26th 2023 at 8:47:42 AM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#27161: May 26th 2023 at 8:52:21 AM

I bet the kids are pieces of Mephisto and Rabin will replace his hands with them

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#27162: May 26th 2023 at 8:56:20 AM

This run only makes sense as Marvel Editorial I MEAN Mephisto trying to keep the marriage apart.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#27163: May 26th 2023 at 8:56:55 AM

I'm waiting for the reveal Paul is Mephisto. Because we literally know nothing about this guy besides

Conveniently the only man in the dimension Peter & MJ were trapped in.

Super smart, strong and capable against Rabin more than Spider-Man for some reason

MJ falls in love with him while constantly saying how much happier she is with him than ever was with Peter while acting like it was his fault they split up.

Edited by FKJ10 on May 26th 2023 at 8:57:48 AM

knightstorm Since: Feb, 2022
#27164: May 26th 2023 at 9:34:45 AM

[up]Paul being Mephisto makes perfect sense. It's all a plot to ensure that Mayday is never born in 616.

FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#27165: May 26th 2023 at 9:58:52 AM

Already too late for that considering MJ miscarried Mayday back in the clone saga

So unless they have some brand new Spider time travel event that fixes not only OMD but Clone Saga Mistskes:

Letting Ben Reiley stay a hero

Sticking with May's original death

Making Mayday's miscarry never happen

MJ and Peter staying married

Norman staying DEAD.

Doubt we will see Mayday in 616

I'll never get Marvel's logic they try desperately to make the next great female hero yet they ignore Spider Girl who was that.

She had the longest comic run of any female hero in Marvel.

Edited by FKJ10 on May 26th 2023 at 10:01:06 AM

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#27166: May 26th 2023 at 10:05:09 AM

[up]It was never definitively conclusive that Mayday was miscarried.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#27167: May 26th 2023 at 10:05:31 AM

Reminder when Ultimate Spider-Man introduced a Spider-Girl, it was a lame gender-bent version of Peter called Petra Parker who was also a huge sexist towards men

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#27168: May 26th 2023 at 10:11:30 AM

Are we talking post OMD retcon?

Because originally it was a fake miscarriage and Norman had the baby shipped off to comic book limbo

Edited by Bocaj on May 26th 2023 at 1:14:00 PM

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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#27169: May 26th 2023 at 10:12:10 AM

[up][up] A lot about Ultimate is meant to remain buried.

Wake me up at your own risk.
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#27170: May 26th 2023 at 10:12:48 AM

[up] [up]Depends if there even is a post-OMD retcon anymore. Kafka listed 'the baby' as one of Norman's sins, and Lost Hunt was recently published showing MJ was very pregnant

Edited by Zarius on May 26th 2023 at 10:13:16 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#27171: May 26th 2023 at 10:13:14 AM

[up][up] To be clear I mean the cartoon, not the comic tongue

Whose idea was it to name the cartoon after the comic despite not really being much of an adaptation of it?

Edited by slimcoder on May 26th 2023 at 10:13:23 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#27172: May 26th 2023 at 10:14:22 AM

Although… with Norman being a Good Boy now, if Mayday was still alive somewhere and he just didn’t mention it, that’s a big dick move. Also a dick move not to confess his involvement to new best pal Peter

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Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#27173: May 26th 2023 at 10:19:40 AM

[up] I did write a one-page 'What If' webcomic where Norman straight up does tell Pete and MJ Mayday's alive and he helps Peter rescue her

Edited by Zarius on May 26th 2023 at 10:19:53 AM

knightstorm Since: Feb, 2022
#27174: May 26th 2023 at 10:57:52 AM

Spider-Man's continuity is a trainwreck. OMD on top of being a truly awful story...damaged the book on every level. No one can be sure what did or didn't happen anymore...

FKJ10 Since: Mar, 2012
#27175: May 26th 2023 at 11:22:28 AM

Mayday is why I say Norman should never be forgiven let alone redeemed.

Mayday in 616 might as well be dead. Yeah the intent was the baby got kidnapped by the nurse but Editorial would jump off a bridge than admit Peter has a kid in 616.

So stillborn Mayday is all we have in the main continuity.

If Mayday is still alive in 616 after all the OMD nonsense God that just makes Wells run even worse as MJ is playing mom to kids who aren't hers while her kidnapped daughter is being raised by a con woman.

Edited by FKJ10 on May 26th 2023 at 11:24:30 AM


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