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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

  • Apart from the main Marvel Universe titles, Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man "What If?" stories, crossovers, guest appearances in other books, Alternate Universe tales and things like Marvel's manga adaptations are all on-topic here.
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  • Characters and comics that originated in Spider-Man but are no longer directly connected to the spider-franchise (e.g. Punisher, Silver Sable) are not on-topic, unless you're discussing historical connections and crossovers. If in doubt, check before you write a long post. If this isn't the right place, there's a more general Marvel Comics thread which covers them.

Technically, Marvel's Infinity Comics (and their predecessors, Infinite Comics) are webcomics, not comic books, but it's fine to talk about their Spider-Man stories here.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#26626: Apr 28th 2023 at 3:14:30 AM

This was genuinely sad.

On the topic of the 90s show, I do wonder how Peter would have explained all the clone shit and wedding to MJ.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Nofix from Over there Since: Jan, 2015
#26627: Apr 28th 2023 at 3:32:58 AM

"Mary Jane, you would not believe the stuff that happened while you were gone.''

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#26628: Apr 28th 2023 at 3:34:43 AM

And the fact that no one else knows about the clone and alternate dimension shit.

So as far as everyone else knows, she's happily married to Peter.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Apr 28th 2023 at 6:35:16 PM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#26631: May 2nd 2023 at 8:42:52 AM

Even Rich is no longer convinced the big death is Mary Jane

I think it's now far likely to be Robbie Robertson, since it would fit thematically with Randy's impending wedding and add a layer of tragedy to it

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#26632: May 2nd 2023 at 9:47:44 AM

[up] I'm not sure what to believe anymore.

But food for thought, what if they actually do kill MJ? Like, would the impact be so huge, almost everyone will "NOPE!" out of Spider-Comics?

I mean, obviously it won't stop Spider-Comics from selling period, but maybe the death of MJ might dip sales from the top 5-10 (or wherever Spider-Books end up selling at) to like Top 40 or somewhere that's considered "not a smash hit"?

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#26633: May 2nd 2023 at 10:01:33 AM

Honestly, this run has shown that Marvel can do whatever the hell they want with Spider-Man and it will sell like hot cakes.

So fuck it, they might as well kill MJ since they want Peter to be single. It's WRITER preference at this point. Supposedly, the Editorial is lax on the single status but now it's a writer preference.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
knightstorm Since: Feb, 2022
#26634: May 2nd 2023 at 1:03:35 PM

I've just taken to viewing the Playstation games and Spiderverse movies as the "true" Canon nowadays. The comics are pretty much just bad fanfic of the 70's/early 80's status quo.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#26635: May 2nd 2023 at 1:07:38 PM

I wish I knew why MJ was such a bugbear to the creators. Other unpopular editorially enforced decisions, like M-Day, have long been walked back on, but nobody’s willing to budge on her, and it’s weird because other superhero love interests, even other Spidey love interests, don’t seem to provoke the same reaction.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#26636: May 2nd 2023 at 1:08:55 PM

Meanwhile Wally West over at DC is back to being a big hero and is happily married having just had his 3rd kid

Edited by slimcoder on May 2nd 2023 at 1:09:10 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#26637: May 2nd 2023 at 1:12:43 PM

[up][up][up] I personally mix and match canon with the various adaptations, and mainstream comics up until just before Civil War.

The Renew your vows verse would actually work quite well for my own personal canon since it IS a universe where Civil War never happened.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
knightstorm Since: Feb, 2022
#26638: May 2nd 2023 at 1:25:33 PM

I loved RYV until they aged up Annie. I would have the same feeling of disdain when DC later aged up Jon Kent.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#26639: May 2nd 2023 at 1:27:00 PM

Its a pretty good setting at least, my only issue is that its a universe where Jean Grey marries Wolverine

Ugh I tell you that is gross man [lol]

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
knightstorm Since: Feb, 2022
#26640: May 2nd 2023 at 1:28:25 PM

Poor Scott definitely got the short end of the stick in that universe.tongue

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#26641: May 2nd 2023 at 1:28:43 PM

Yeah I also didn’t like the aging up. Felt like it was skipping past all the good stuff that we were here to see to go for a diet Mayday feel

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knightstorm Since: Feb, 2022
#26642: May 2nd 2023 at 1:31:45 PM

These companies seem to have an issue with kids. The age ups wrecked Annie and Jon both...just making them generic teen heroes.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#26643: May 2nd 2023 at 1:33:14 PM

The irony in that since the downplaying of sidekicks and young heroes, kid heroes are an actual rarity

Meanwhile we have plenty of teenagers

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
knightstorm Since: Feb, 2022
#26644: May 2nd 2023 at 1:34:46 PM

Exactly. You couldn't turn around and not trip over a teen hero in a comic. But kid heroes are rare.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#26645: May 2nd 2023 at 1:36:10 PM

I kind of get a certain logic of "It's irresponsible to have kid sidekicks" but uhhh, RYV tended to have Peter, MJ and Annie fight as a team.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
knightstorm Since: Feb, 2022
#26646: May 2nd 2023 at 1:39:26 PM

Yep...Annie rarely did any superheroics without her parents. In fact it was a rule.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#26647: May 2nd 2023 at 3:20:37 PM

I think I recall Scott Snyder saying that he didn't use Damian Wayne much because he kept thinking of his own kid and imagining him in the situations Damian was often in. Teen heroes are controversial enough (it's one of the reasons Jason Todd was originally killed off), preteen heroes are an even bigger can of worms. Little surprise there are so few of them.

LoneCourier0 The Wandering Geek from A Diverse Land (Unitroper) Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
The Wandering Geek
#26648: May 2nd 2023 at 3:25:12 PM

So, what was the full speech where Spider-Man repeated the words "NO ONE DIES!!!" like a form of Madness Mantra?

"Cynicism is not realistic and tough. It's unrealistic and kind of cowardly because it means you don't have to try."
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#26649: May 2nd 2023 at 3:57:12 PM

[up][up] Meanwhile manga has 10 year olds in life or death battles where they spill tons of blood. [lol]

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#26650: May 2nd 2023 at 4:15:31 PM

Anime and manga child endanger like it’s going out of style

Superhero writers need to get on the level

The avengers at least let their baby weapon of mass destruction fight god. Slash couldn’t really stop her.

Edited by Bocaj on May 2nd 2023 at 7:16:41 AM

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