TVTropes Now available in the app store!
Open

Follow TV Tropes

Following

Spider-Man General Discussion

Go To

This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

  • Apart from the main Marvel Universe titles, Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man "What If?" stories, crossovers, guest appearances in other books, Alternate Universe tales and things like Marvel's manga adaptations are all on-topic here.
  • Spider-Man 'family' books are on-topic (as are their own crossovers, guest appearances etc.) - e.g. Spider-Man 2099, Miles Morales, Spider-Woman, Silk, Spider-Gwen, Venom, Carnage, Black Cat, Red Goblin and Spider-Verse.
  • Characters and comics that originated in Spider-Man but are no longer directly connected to the spider-franchise (e.g. Punisher, Silver Sable) are not on-topic, unless you're discussing historical connections and crossovers. If in doubt, check before you write a long post. If this isn't the right place, there's a more general Marvel Comics thread which covers them.

Technically, Marvel's Infinity Comics (and their predecessors, Infinite Comics) are webcomics, not comic books, but it's fine to talk about their Spider-Man stories here.

Discussions that are only about Spider-Man adaptations in other media (films, video games etc.) are off-topic, but discussing the differences between the adaptations and the original comics is fine - as long as spoilers for the adaptations are tagged.

Please follow the spoiler policy rules - tag spoilers for the latest issues, for any previews or content leaks, and for off-topic comics. When including spoiler tags, try to write so that tropers can make an informed decision before viewing them (e.g. which series and issue will they spoil?).

     Original Thread OP 
Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#26351: Apr 4th 2023 at 7:28:33 AM

[up][up][up] They were un-married by the Flashpoint reset back in 2011, while many things have since switched back to their familiar status quos, that didn't for some reason, so they're just going to have a new wedding.

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#26352: Apr 4th 2023 at 9:35:13 AM

Preview of ASM#25

Not looking good, on one hand it confirms Mary Jane's missing years where she fended off the Emissary in this world with Paul and presumably fell for him all while Peter tried to retrieve her in the present, but in a more therapeutic moment you get to see MJ slap Paul, and you find MJ kept a piece of Spidey's costume with her at all times

Spider-Man#7 spoilers

Ah, so THAT's why we haven't heard of Spider-Boy

He was knifed and cut out of the web of life and destiny, now he's been restored (along with the other Spiders that were knifed, both on the page and off, like Jessica...and Kaine!)

Edited by Zarius on Apr 4th 2023 at 10:09:25 AM

Tiamatty X-Men X-Pert from Now on Twitter Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Brony
#26353: Apr 4th 2023 at 2:52:06 PM

"I'm reminded on the Kieron Gillen run on Loki, and how Journey into Mystery ended" Luckily, writers seem to have steadfastly refused to just put Loki back to being a villain. He actually did manage to change.

X-Men X-Pert, my blog where I talk about X-Men comics.
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#26355: Apr 5th 2023 at 2:33:16 AM

Ok, I cave, when I saw how Shathra was defeated by Peter, I immediately thought of "Carry On" from Sailor Moon and have been playing it non stop while sharing that page online

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#26356: Apr 5th 2023 at 5:49:04 AM

Morlun's status after Spider-Man#7

Badly injured and drained, Morlun decides to go into hiding, and we won't have to wait long to see where he ends up, he'll be involved in the Web of Carnage event

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#26357: Apr 5th 2023 at 8:17:13 AM

[up][up] How did it go down?

The Protomen enhanced my life.
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#26358: Apr 5th 2023 at 8:33:16 AM

[up] Peter showed up with a big hi-tech webshooter and shot blasts from it into Shathra that sent her to another dimension. It reminded me of Sailor Moon's first finale for some reason. Peter got reattached to the web of life and destiny afterwards and became Spider-Man again

Edited by Zarius on Apr 5th 2023 at 8:33:29 AM

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#26359: Apr 5th 2023 at 11:48:10 AM

A question about this thread itself, rather than the comics -

Is there any appetite for a pinned post that would explain the scope of the thread (Spider-Man, Spider-Gwen, Miles Morales, Spider-Man 2099 etc. - but also stuff like Gold Goblin, Black Cat and Red Goblin, that's clearly spider-family related?) and ensure the spoiler policy link's always visible?

For that matter, is this the right thread for all of those titles? I assume it is. And for Venom and Carnage?

Thanks!

Edited by Mrph1 on Apr 5th 2023 at 9:00:23 AM

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#26360: Apr 5th 2023 at 9:18:02 PM

Another of the Brand New Day crew has returned to Marvel in Marc Guggenheim, who's doing an X-Men book.

Given Marvel are cycling through that era's writers again (Wells, Slott, Kelly), will they enlist Marc to pen ASM?

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#26361: Apr 6th 2023 at 10:06:12 AM

Spider-Man#7

This was mad

The release of Morlun's totem energy sends him and the Spiders to the very end of the spider-verse...manhattan 616. Morlun, badly weakened, goes into hiding. He will return in the Web of Carnage event

Shathra's hold over her minions is shattered and they revert to normal. Mary Jane asks Mayday if she can spot Annie or 'her' Peter, Mayday says she can't, and then asks if they've seen her dad, revealing he is The Other and resembles a giant spider, Spider-Ham replies that description doesn't help any

Shathra grows giant and Silk orders the billions of Spider-Men to battle, after an exhausting back and forth, 616 Peter arrives armed with giant hi-tech trans dimensional combat web shooter, which he uses to send Shathra to another plane of existence. Shathra's sister Neith, the first Spider-Totem, arrives and hands the Spiders the talisman that can restore all those cut from the web of life and destiny.

Arana uses the talisman to restore Jessica, Kaine, and one other...young Bailey, aka Spider-Boy. Kaine tells Jessica he was present in the battle with Morlun in issue one but got stabbed, we as readers didn't notice, and neither did the others, Jessica then remembers, Cindy says they're lucky they didn't forget, but it seems those who are cut from the web have a limited window of relevancy with the world before they are completely neglected. With Bailey, they waited too late and now nobody remembers him, despite him having been around for a while and having had millions of adventures with Peter and Miles.

Bailey, annoyed that everyone's forgotten about him, swings away. The remaining Spiders all bombard Cindy with questions, MC 2 Peter asks Mayday to talk to Cindy and ask for her help in restoring him to normal (presumably Cindy succeeds, as we saw Peter back with his Mary Jane and the family in the Spider-Girl Marvel Infinity comic published last year)

616 Peter is also back to 'normal', realizing Uncle Ben is lost to him again, he calls Aunt May, who's experiences with Ben in the altered timeline have been reduced to a pleasant dream. Peter asks if they're still on for dinner. Cindy and Peter talk on the roof, Cindy doesn't think it's fair that Peter is no longer the chosen one, but Peter says there's no better person qualified to replace him than her, his duty is to his own world as the one and only Amazing Spider-Man and swings away, finally freed from the obligations of the Spider-Verse

Edited by Zarius on Apr 6th 2023 at 10:23:34 AM

Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#26362: Apr 6th 2023 at 1:00:14 PM

The latest Venom issue says that the Beyonders are the "Kings in White", and alongside the King(s) in Black are meant to serve as the architects of the universe.

I've always been neutral on this whole King in Black mythos but I do love how it constantly ties into various aspects of the Marvel universe. It adds legitimacy to it, and makes it more than just anotherrandom god plopped into the verse.

Also Spiderman is actually the idea candidate for King in Black thanks to his thing for responsibility. But he's got his own stuff going on and Eddie was the next best thing.

Eddie just can't catch a break.

#IceBearForPresident
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#26363: Apr 6th 2023 at 1:03:38 PM

Not much of a stretch, I guess.

The Beyonders were called the Ivory Kings during the build up to Secret War 2015. It’s just a short hop from there to arc weld them onto the king in black stuff

Plus, the Beyonders have this whole deal after Defenders Beyond where they maintain the multiverse, versus Knull who wanted to tear it all down

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#26364: Apr 6th 2023 at 1:18:34 PM

The issue even points that out. The "ivory kings" maintain the universe from outside it while the "ebony king" maintains it from within.

Knull was the worst candidate for the throne. His very nature as a creature of the void means he's not suited for building, he's only capable of destroying. Of reducing everything back to zero. So not only was he instinctually compelled to death and destruction, the responsibility of the King in Black broke his mind.

#IceBearForPresident
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#26365: Apr 6th 2023 at 1:21:24 PM

Were there Kings in Black before Knull?

The previous universes I guess.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#26366: Apr 6th 2023 at 2:00:19 PM

Al Ewing in particular really seems to love Arc Welding Marvel’s often contradictory cosmology. He even came up with an explanation for the much-grumbled-about fact that there are so many nearly identical evil nihilistic gods that want to reduce the universe to nothing that actually made sense.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#26367: Apr 6th 2023 at 4:54:57 PM

All whom have claimed to have existed when there was only darkness.

Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#26368: Apr 6th 2023 at 7:05:55 PM

Well, the fact that the current universe is just the 7th or 8th iteration, and all the gods of darkness are just fragments of the original God of Darkness back from the 3rd incarnation of the universe that got broken into pieces, is a decent enough explanation for why there are so many occupying the same title and originating when there was ostensibly "nothing".

Edited by Spirit on Apr 6th 2023 at 10:07:12 AM

#IceBearForPresident
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#26369: Apr 6th 2023 at 11:36:23 PM

Just released: Video footage of CB Cebulski's statements on Marvel's 'preference' not to bring back Spider-Marriage at C2 E2

Edited by Zarius on Apr 6th 2023 at 11:37:38 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#26370: Apr 6th 2023 at 11:40:28 PM

So yeah, there's still not point in expecting actual progress and the writing will resort to gimmicky plot points to keep the illusion of progress even long after it's been shattered by OMD.

It helps I'm far more invested in non-616 Peter characters these days.

Like Venom, and Gold Goblin.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#26371: Apr 6th 2023 at 11:43:36 PM

So, I have to ask -

In the main 616 continuity, does Tombstone actually have poodles?

This is prompted by his appearance in a certain Lighter and Softer webcomic, where he has three of them.

In Marvel Meow and Pizza Dog #2, they all run into Kate Bishop mid-walk, while she's walking Lucky and several cats, including Captain Marvel's Chewie. A pet fight ensues.

Tombstone: My prized poodles! You scamps!!

I laughed.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#26372: Apr 7th 2023 at 2:16:25 AM

A message from Dan Slott.

Have you ever considered...

That the people overseeing, editing, writing, and producing these comics are simply trying to put out the best stories possible and don't have any bizarre, evil schemes to "ruin" characters or "enrage" fans?

That none of them are "anti-marriage"? That practically all of the people who've worked on the editorial and multiple writing teams are actually happily married and/or in healthy adult relationships? And that a number of them have married off OTHER characters in OTHER Marvel Comics?

That no one is creating "self insert" characters— or trying to live vicariously through the fictional characters that they are either overseeing and/or creating adventures for?

That maybe there are sections of a very passionate fanbase who have been ascribing cartoonish and completely off base personalities to the real life people who create adventures of completely fictional characters?

Just throwing that out there.

I do not like everything Dan Slott has written and maybe he has put his foot in his mouth a few times. But when he's right, he's right.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#26373: Apr 7th 2023 at 2:23:42 AM

and this is notably not one of those times

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#26374: Apr 7th 2023 at 2:35:22 AM

Spider-Man is such a weird case where it feels like the editorial and fans are at war with each other. They both want really different things.

Closest to whats happening here is over at the Black Panther office where they are mandating a direction for the character that has gotten a significant uproar from fans.

Its all so weird.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#26375: Apr 7th 2023 at 2:35:42 AM

Slott has said in the past Peter's relationship with MJ is 'anti-marvel', so what does that tell you?


Total posts: 38,961
Top