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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#26226: Mar 23rd 2023 at 2:55:20 PM

From what I recall her Ghost Spider comic was about her being an interdimensional exchange student.

She technically still lived on Earth-65, but she colleges on Earth-616 so she spends more time on the latter place cause she goes to school there now.

Why exactly she's doing to a 616 college I'm not sure.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#26227: Mar 23rd 2023 at 2:55:27 PM

idk this evil storm thing doesn't seem well handled

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#26228: Mar 23rd 2023 at 2:59:58 PM

It was introduced at the end of Seanan Mcgurie's run as a way to keep Gwen in the 616. Mcguire simply wasn't able to tell the story she wanted to tell.

Gwen has no character after all.

She's super inconsistent.

That's not accurate, she's pretty consistentlyn written in her solo run and clearly has a character.

Edited by Cortez on Mar 23rd 2023 at 6:07:13 AM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#26229: Mar 23rd 2023 at 3:43:10 PM

I maintain that Ghost Spider would be a better codename for Miles who can turn invisible and then taze people

It’s a nothing code name for Gwen. Oh I have white in my costume and an alternate version of me is dead I guess I’m a ghost spider! Go back to name school, Gwen

Edited by Bocaj on Mar 23rd 2023 at 6:44:08 AM

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#26230: Mar 23rd 2023 at 3:44:47 PM

Ghost Spider sounds cool at least.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#26231: Mar 23rd 2023 at 4:02:08 PM

[up]×2

It especially doesn't make sense when she's in Earth-65, since she's the only Spider-Person there. Her being called Spider-Woman worked fine.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#26232: Mar 23rd 2023 at 4:06:07 PM

[up][up][up] I heard this before and yeah, I agree on both parts.

I don't think Ghost Spider is a great name for Miles either (still feels like a stretch) but it's so blah for Gwen.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#26233: Mar 23rd 2023 at 4:09:08 PM

[up][up] Yeah the real world really seeped into Spider-Gwen's writing at times.

There's so much emphasis placed on her alternate self's death. Because it's important to us.

Spider-Man has various versions who are dead but you don't see Peter focusing on that.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Mar 23rd 2023 at 7:09:38 PM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#26234: Mar 23rd 2023 at 4:13:57 PM

Her relationship with Miles is so hilarious cause she's in college so an actual adult, while Miles is only in high-school and not even a senior

Fucking Bendis man [lol]

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#26235: Mar 23rd 2023 at 4:15:19 PM

I remember seeing a panel from one comic where Spider-Gwen herself makes a quip about Gwen Stacy's death when she's falling and it's like... why is that something on your mind to reference casually?

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#26236: Mar 23rd 2023 at 4:15:34 PM

[up][up]Gwen and Miles are fucking Bendis?!!!

[up] Yeah this is an example of the comic placing so much focus on Gwen's death because it's iconic to her character but in-universe she has no reason to keep thinking about it.

Peter isn't scared of transforming into the Lizard is he?

Edited by RedHunter543 on Mar 23rd 2023 at 7:16:35 PM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#26237: Mar 23rd 2023 at 4:17:01 PM

tbf 616 peter has done that before so maybe he should be

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#26238: Mar 23rd 2023 at 4:21:49 PM

He could stand to grow extra arms more often if you think about it

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Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#26239: Mar 23rd 2023 at 4:24:27 PM

It didn't get brought up much in Latour's run besides the time Gwen met Earth 617's Gwen, But Mcguire's run had her bringing up 616's Gwen's death a lot.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#26240: Mar 23rd 2023 at 5:50:21 PM

I don't think Ghost Spider is a great name for Miles either

You heard him folks. Kid Arachnid it is![lol]

One Strip! One Strip!
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#26241: Mar 23rd 2023 at 5:54:06 PM

How about Spy-D?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#26242: Mar 23rd 2023 at 5:59:03 PM

I never understood why those cartoons kept trying to give Miles a different codename when the comics kept it as Spider-Man.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#26243: Mar 23rd 2023 at 5:59:16 PM

Both bad

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#26244: Mar 23rd 2023 at 6:02:53 PM

How hard is it to come up with a good spider name? There's more than 45,000 species in the world.

Jeez it makes Black Spider sound better than Spy-D and Kid Arachnid, and that ones just kinda racist.

Edited by slimcoder on Mar 23rd 2023 at 6:03:14 AM

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#26245: Mar 23rd 2023 at 6:06:24 PM

Spy-D doesn't sound bad as a name/concept just not for Miles

But reading up on the background about that, it seems like Bendis was actually laying the groundwork to give Miles a name change before he left Marvel? Huh.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#26246: Mar 23rd 2023 at 6:10:37 PM

Marvel and Miles are in a tricky spot. Miles was never intended to share a universe with an active Peter Parker Spider-Man. He was meant to be The Spider-Man.

He was salvaged and shoved into the 616 universe when the ultimate universe was taken out back and shot. But now there’s two Spider-Mans. And Miles wasn’t meant to be mentored by an older Spider-Man and if you have Miles hang out with Peter too much, Peter starts feeling old. So despite lipservice about how Peter is Miles’ mentor, they mostly just do their own shit

Anyway, Peter isn’t going to change from being Spider-Man. He has way too much popularity and history.

Miles has too much popularity too and it’d be a bad look to demote him in favor of Peter.

So we have two Spider-Mans. But we also have two Hawkeyes and we have two Captains America.

I don’t know why we couldn’t have two Spider-Women. Marvel is silly.

[up] What gets me is what does the D stand for

Edited by Bocaj on Mar 23rd 2023 at 9:11:53 AM

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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#26247: Mar 23rd 2023 at 6:16:48 PM

Write it like that to make it look cooler, even if it's just saying Spidey.

Wake me up at your own risk.
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#26248: Mar 23rd 2023 at 6:19:19 PM

[up][up] Apparently when Miles was doing Spy stuff in lead up to this he used his father's surname as a codename: Davis.

Spy-D = Spy Davis

Also, I wonder if giving Gwen her own codename was less to rebrand her from Spider-woman and more to rebrand her from Spider-Gwen.

Edited by Saiga on Mar 23rd 2023 at 6:20:57 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#26249: Mar 23rd 2023 at 6:19:46 PM

Thats almost as bad as Tim Drake naming himself Drake

Also by Bendis

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#26250: Mar 23rd 2023 at 6:20:48 PM

[up]×3

Oh yeah, Miles was going to join some spy organization. I completely forgot about that.


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