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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

  • Apart from the main Marvel Universe titles, Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man "What If?" stories, crossovers, guest appearances in other books, Alternate Universe tales and things like Marvel's manga adaptations are all on-topic here.
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Technically, Marvel's Infinity Comics (and their predecessors, Infinite Comics) are webcomics, not comic books, but it's fine to talk about their Spider-Man stories here.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#26101: Mar 11th 2023 at 4:09:14 AM

Aw, I wanted to read Black Cat/MJ, but it's all to do with Dark Web? I'm not following that stuff, so eh

Nofix from Over there Since: Jan, 2015
#26102: Mar 11th 2023 at 4:12:13 AM

Therein be a major problem with modern comics. All the interesting stuff is buried under, or merged at the hip with, a bunch of tie-in or event bullshit.

Tiamatty X-Men X-Pert from Now on Twitter Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Brony
#26103: Mar 11th 2023 at 4:14:13 AM

[up][up][up] Not like he could handle her worse than Kevin Smith did. Ugh. That damn mini. I also just read a story Aguirre-Sarcasa wrote with her, and it was bad. It was during Civil War, Spider-Man got his ass handed to him by the Rhino, so Felicia got really angry and decided to take him down, and the issue was all about her not being over Peter and how she'd wrapped up a big part of her identity around him and just, ugh. It was bad.

My Marvel read-through is just past Civil War. I'm about to read Back In Black, and then comes One More Day. Oof.

Edited by Tiamatty on Mar 11th 2023 at 7:14:27 AM

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Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#26104: Mar 11th 2023 at 4:39:14 AM

[up] Back In Black is at least a worthy end to pre-OMD Spidey, JMS had something to prove on his way out. Then there's Fraction's "To Have and to Hold" which, while not written by JMS, is often credited with being the 'true' end of that era and what it had to say about Peter and MJ. That and "The Book of Peter" all form a good Series Fauxnale

I still find it weird we've never gotten an alternate universe series that follows the marriage on from "To Have and to Hold", and Civil War onwards. Renew Your Vows is set in a world where CW never happened, but it would be great to see how things would have unfolded with a married and publicly exposed Spidey.

Much like with that "What If" where Gwen lived and married Peter and his identity got exposed, there was no follow up to that either.

Edited by Zarius on Mar 11th 2023 at 5:09:22 AM

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#26105: Mar 12th 2023 at 4:23:30 AM

Oh wow, even Council of Geeks has commented on the Peter and MJ situation.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#26106: Mar 12th 2023 at 7:22:04 AM

I’m not familiar with the person. Is that significant?

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#26107: Mar 12th 2023 at 7:32:35 AM

Not like he could handle her worse than Kevin Smith did. Ugh. That damn mini.

What's really sad about Evil That Men Do is that there are times it comes close to a great story about rape, sexual abuse and how it affects people. It's the only comic from the 2000s that I've seen feature a male victim of sexual abuse without treating it as a joke or ignoring it completely

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#26108: Mar 12th 2023 at 8:15:54 AM

[up][up] I've seen Council of Geek's videos occasionally posted in other forums on Tropes, mostly about her commentaries on transgender controversies with JK Rowling. She's best known in the Doctor Who community for her lengthy reviews and hot takes on that particular show. I thought it was worth mentioning that she'd commented on the Spidey comics as she does have a big following on Youtube.

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#26109: Mar 12th 2023 at 12:10:56 PM

A real life version of Aunt May and Peter's house is up for sale.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#26110: Mar 13th 2023 at 2:29:15 PM

Just came across this post from Scans Daily of Peter getting his ass kicked by Paste Pot Pete THE TRAPSTER.

It got me wondering, what happened to the Trapster? What's he doing lately....oh wait. He was replaced by a new female version wasn't he? I remembered, she was part of Beetle's new, all female Sinister Six.

But I'm still wondering what happened to classic Trapster. Is he dead? Retired? Still trying to get people to stop calling him Paste Pot Pete?

One Strip! One Strip!
Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#26111: Mar 14th 2023 at 2:34:15 AM

And the Spider-Verse Unlimited Noir story is a proper arc, not a one-off. That cheers me up.

Punching fascists in the 1930s, with Daredevil and Aunt May in major roles. Hmm.

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: This is not my beautiful wife!
he/him
#26112: Mar 15th 2023 at 5:17:50 AM

The end of Gold Goblin today -

Norman enlists Spider-Man to help him fight the Queen Goblin (Dr. Kafka), who's intent on returning his sins to him - and frustrated that she can't. She almost kills him, impaling him on a goblin glider, then tries to psychically download all of the sin to Peter - Norman saves him by attacking her with her own flail-mace thing, but snaps her neck with the chain. He's left in tears, carrying the guilt for her death.

To be continued, I guess.

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#26113: Mar 15th 2023 at 11:20:19 AM

It's a 'sin' (I'll get me coat) that Kafka has been literally wasted again, especially since her co-creator recently used her so well in the Ben Reilly prequel comics and added an additional wrinkle that Peter and MJ confided in her during MJ's pregnancy

reppuzan Since: Dec, 2014
#26114: Mar 15th 2023 at 3:02:52 PM

I tried flipping through Red Goblin today and thought it was pretty good. Normie makes for a similar protagonist to Dylan in that he's impetuous, somewhat cynical, and immature. But he's less sure of himself and chafes under the knowledge that his grandfather ruined many, many lives, to the point that he considers being an Osborn a curse. He also clearly resents his mom, Liz Allan, for being so busy running Oscorp that she can barely spend any time on him and Stanley.

Normie's symbiote, "Rascal", is pretty much the inverse of Venom in that it's incredibly childish and pouty but also desperate to please. As Normie puts it, Rascal is a clean sheet, as innocent as a puppy. But it also completely lacks self-control and will go after chocolate and candy with reckless abandon. It isn't fully bonded to Normie either and will attempt to bully Normie into giving it what it wants.

Also, the scene where a delirious, dehydrated, and exhausted Norman mistakes red-clad Normie for Peter and desperately apologizing to him was a real gut punch moment.

Edited by reppuzan on Mar 15th 2023 at 3:04:27 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#26115: Mar 15th 2023 at 3:06:51 PM

I still can't get over that name. Normie.

Like sure it came in the 80s but it has aged poorly.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#26116: Mar 15th 2023 at 3:16:16 PM

Their rich, rich people give their kids weird names [lol]

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#26117: Mar 15th 2023 at 3:19:15 PM

.....Yeah, I know from experience.

Though Stanley Osborn is pretty mundane in comparison.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#26118: Mar 15th 2023 at 3:20:54 PM

Normie is just short for Norman. He’s named after his father and grandfather: Norman Harold Osborn but called Normie for disambiguation

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#26119: Mar 15th 2023 at 3:23:08 PM

Well better than calling him Norman Jr.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#26120: Mar 15th 2023 at 3:29:13 PM

[up] Well technically he'd be Jr Jr.

I like Red Gobby's design here

I like how they branching out with the symbiote designs, giving new ones unique touches while keeping the species visually consistent

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/red_goblin_1.png

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/red_goblin_2.png

Edited by slimcoder on Mar 15th 2023 at 3:29:45 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#26121: Mar 15th 2023 at 3:29:45 PM

The Ruby Surfer Rises.

Wake me up at your own risk.
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#26122: Mar 15th 2023 at 3:36:54 PM

Pretty sure Carnage has possessed Silver Surfer once.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#26123: Mar 15th 2023 at 3:38:28 PM

That he did

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/carnage_cosmic_4221.gif

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#26124: Mar 15th 2023 at 6:07:46 PM

Like the early symbiotes like the Life Foundation bunch are basically color skins of Venom and Carnage. They have the same eyes and mouth with the only difference being Riot is grey or Phage is yellow

Recent symbiotes though have been trying to be more distinct, like Sleeper who has unique eyes and a color pattern

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/sleeper.png

or Wilde one of the Kings in Black who has an eyeless look with dreads

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/kinginblackwilde.png

Though Scream has cool hair

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/newscream_1334.jpg

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#26125: Mar 16th 2023 at 12:11:15 AM

I'm digging the Red Goblin series. Though I can't shake the nagging Continuity Snarl with his identity.

Like, Normie was originally red and white. He was never officially called Anti-Carnage, but he was clearly the latest in the line of anti symbiotes (Anti-Venom, Silence, now Rascal). But hey I loved the Norman Red Goblin design so okay, but I would like an explanation for why Rascal is all red now.

But also, Normie was called Goblin Childe when he was given a Carnage offshoot. But now he's calling himself Red Goblin. These are a lot of names and looks Normie has been juggling with no explanation.

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