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Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM
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Yeah exactly, that's why I'm turned off on this run despite hearing mixed opinions.
I'd rather have Peter in a stable relationship than do the will they won't they bit while Peter has another hot girlfriend when he's on the outs with MJ.
At least with Norman, there's actual character progression that may or may not stick but it has me hooked.
Like I brought this up before but I was an avid reader of Spider-Man comics as a kid but when BND became a thing, I just stopped caring about Spider-Man for a long while or at least 616 Peter.
Ultimate Peter was a source of comfort and refuge after Amazing turned to shit at the time. Ultimate Peter actually had compelling character stuff at the time and I just did not care for the BND era of Spidey.
Edited by RedHunter543 on Feb 12th 2023 at 9:43:31 AM
"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"Yeah we know Felicia and Peter won't work out because Editorial doesn't want Peter to be in a committed relationship for too long since branding and shit.
So the illusion of change is just shattered.
"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"There's just no stakes to anything in ASM since OMD. They flat out told us that Peter was going to be stuck in the same status quo forever...so what's the point? You could read an issue if ASM from 15 years ago...and be confident that absolutely nothing has changed. Peter will still be single and a total failure in all aspects of his life.
That's what the editorial doesn't seem to grasp. The single loser staus quo is something that really can't be maintained indefinitely. It's like the "will they won't they" in a TV show. After awhile...they either need to get together...or just agree to be friends or whatever. Dragging it out just gets boring...and makes everyone look foolish after a certain point. Peter never being able to be with anyone...never having a stable job...everyone hating him for whatever every run...it's just redundant.
Edited by knightstorm on Feb 12th 2023 at 7:00:37 AM
It could be done for Peter...the problem is editorial. The erroneous thinking that created OMD still permeates the editorial offices. It would probably take massive backlash followed with dropping sales to make them change course. That's why everyone who hates this current run needs to vote with their wallets.
Edited by knightstorm on Feb 12th 2023 at 7:19:20 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of writers are just steering clear of the book. If you know you can't do anything but just repeat the same story beats...why bother? They could cancel ASM and just put out a reprint book of stories fom the 70's(the era they desperately wanted to recreate) at this point.
Dunno but it is known that Marvel Editorial fought hard against the bit in PS 4 Spider-Man where Aunt May dies.
"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"Man a bad editor can really ruin shit.
I complained about this a bunch'a times so yawl know, but the current Black Panther editor Will Moss has been working on the title for the past 7 years and is the guy forwarding the current disastrous tenure with the character.
Though its an opposite case where instead of keeping Peter in this crappy status qup, its trying to push out Black Panther to replace him with other characters.
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The fact they apparently "live through" Peter like that says so much.
Edited by slimcoder on Feb 12th 2023 at 7:37:15 AM
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I honestly have no idea. It could be a desire to (badly) recreate the staus quo they grew up on. Peter was a hard luck single hero...but the OMD era has taken it to the point of parody. Peter's bad luck had to do with his life as Spider-Man causing him problems in his civilian life. The OMD era...has made him truly cursed to the point that Al Bundy would be thankful not to be him.
Edited by knightstorm on Feb 12th 2023 at 7:40:17 AM
I'm curious if that's happening now, because from what I can tell, it was the opposite early on. Mark Waid was one of the people who thought Spider-Man had "lost his way" by getting married, for example, and IIRC from Life of Reilly, Dan Jurgens also expressed that he wanted to be writing a swinging single Peter, not married Peter or single Ben Reilly. That's two big name writers who effectively refused to write a married Spider-Man, and I suspect they weren't alone since the early Brand New Day era had this revolving door of big name writers and classic Spider-Man writers (Roger Stern comes to mind, for example) who were working on the book all of a sudden - including Waid and Jurgens.
...but it's been so long since then that the pendulum may have swung the other way. There are assuredly writers now who have nostalgia for a married Spidey, or a sense that MJ is the one true love interest (influenced by either the Animated Series or the Maguire movies). A move that was made at least partly to attract big name writers may have only done so as long as the big name writers had their nostalgia in the 70's.
Edited by TheEvilDrBolty on Feb 12th 2023 at 11:15:47 AM

Reminder that the best way to show how fucked this direction is is to just not buy the issues
Keep in mind this run still sells well as any other Spidey run which is the issue
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."