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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#25751: Feb 9th 2023 at 11:27:43 AM

Spider-Man#5 preview (the Slott book)

Hmm, Pete, now cut from the web of life, means He was never bitten by the spider and is actually present at the house when the Burgler invades, and he appears he's going to take the bullet for May. We know he survives because the previous issue's cliffhanger saw him working at Oscorp

Also there's a new Spider-Woman patrolling town...probably the Cindy of this new reality, now the only one that was bitten by the spider

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#25752: Feb 9th 2023 at 12:25:53 PM

How is this meant to tie into AMS which is currently running?

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#25753: Feb 9th 2023 at 12:31:16 PM

Surprising the Noir series is gonna be in Amazon, honestly.

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Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#25756: Feb 11th 2023 at 7:12:34 AM

Call this copium, but there's a theory some on a discord channel tat Marvel could probably stand to rip off the plot of Bender's Big Score when it comes to the Paul and MJ relationship.

What if Paul is a time displaced Peter? Only instead of Leela being in the dark about that with Fry's other version, Mary Jane IS in on what's happened and doesn't want Peter around her in case he susses out the truth and prevents history from unfolding as it should?

Paul is powerless though, but then, let's remember that the setting of the Lost Hunt is portland around the time of the Clone Saga, when Peter was powerless, married to MJ, and was expecting a child.

Also, Dematteis said in several interviews that the idea to use the Spider-Marriage in a Clone Saga setting came direct from editorial, not him.

Again, could be pure copium, but it'd be a hell of a way to turn Paul into a fan favourite character instead of the roadblock he presently is...because he's always been a more together straight-headed Peter Parker.

That would give Peter even greater stakes during the run...one mistake, for want of a nail, etc...and MJ's family life with Paul is erased and she loses her children.

I might just add this to the WMG section of Zeb's ASM run.

Edited by Zarius on Feb 11th 2023 at 7:12:51 AM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#25757: Feb 11th 2023 at 7:55:10 AM

[up] On one hand, comics are weird, so that could work so long as we remember that mantra. And come to think of it, it can't just be coincidence that Paul and MJ were at the same exact ski resort as Peter and Felicia were.

But on the other hand, it doesn't explain that flashback of Paul beating the tar out of Peter that one time or how Paul barely factored into MJ's train of thought during Dark Web.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Feb 11th 2023 at 10:55:21 AM

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#25758: Feb 11th 2023 at 9:26:55 AM

[up] Ever see/read the Time Traveller's Wife? Sometimes you can be your own worst enemy and are even prone to arguing with yourself]

But yeah you have a point about MJ thinking more about the kids in Dark Web, but remember, she does tell Felicia she senses Peter is troubled and wants her to look after him, so even if she didn't think about Paul, if Paul was Peter, then she did think about him

Edited by Zarius on Feb 11th 2023 at 9:27:23 AM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#25759: Feb 11th 2023 at 9:48:07 AM

but remember, she does tell Felicia she senses Peter is troubled and wants her to look after him, so even if she didn't think about Paul, if Paul was Peter, then she did think about him

Okay, if Paul was Peter, then this would be a perfect example of in-your-face foreshadowing. Like that reveal in Transformers when Onyx Prime turned out to be Shockwave.

knightstorm Since: Feb, 2022
#25760: Feb 11th 2023 at 10:09:56 AM

The thing is though...is that Paul is unlikable. Even not taking into account his being a roadblock...he's either boring or a jerk. Though since everyone in this run is written as their worst selves...I suppose it would still fit....

MetaSkipper the Prodigal from right behind you... Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
the Prodigal
#25761: Feb 11th 2023 at 10:12:31 AM

That is a wild theory. I definitely would not have made that connection.

It would line up with a Paul-Peter(-Mary) naming theme.

...Shit, it might have just enough legs to be worth entertaining.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#25762: Feb 11th 2023 at 10:26:41 AM

So far, the only thing we've seen out of Paul that wasn't a dick move is him paying Peter's rent when the Landlord seemed like he was gonna kick him out while Peter was away from the house.

One Strip! One Strip!
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#25763: Feb 11th 2023 at 3:35:02 PM

Double post:

Has Spider-Man ever fought Sebastian Shaw?

One Strip! One Strip!
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#25764: Feb 11th 2023 at 3:40:50 PM

I can't find any evidence he has but there's a lot of hypethical arguments over who would win

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#25765: Feb 11th 2023 at 3:54:10 PM

Honestly, I'd give it to Peter.

Providing he doesn't deck Shaw hard enough for the latter to become too strong, all he has to do is web Shaw up without hitting him.

So basically, it depends a lot on if he knows how Shaw's power works. Cause provided Shaw doesn't get buffed up, he's just an ordinary human, albeit one you can't punch.

One Strip! One Strip!
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#25766: Feb 12th 2023 at 11:24:24 AM

Romita Jr has been dropping hints he's returning to Kick-Ass soon, so he may not be on ASM for much longer, all the while Patrick Gleason has been hinting at maybe taking over as artist, and he already has done the work for this year's Free Comic Book Day issue

RedM Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
#25768: Feb 12th 2023 at 12:33:32 PM

[up]I remember hearing rumors that Ed Brubaker wanted to write ASM years ago but it was either before or during the Slott era and didn't happen. No idea if that's true. He might be busy with creator-owned stuff now.

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Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#25769: Feb 12th 2023 at 1:49:51 PM

I'm pretty sure Brubaker is also generally burnt out on work-for-hire stuff now, judging by his comments on the Falcon and the Winter Soldier and why he took the Caped Crusader gig.

RedM Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
#25770: Feb 12th 2023 at 2:02:12 PM

[up]What did he say?

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Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#25771: Feb 12th 2023 at 2:43:18 PM

For Falcon he basically said that he was tired of Marvel basically making billions of his and Steve Epting's work where they only really got salutary compensation and recognition. For Crusader, he basically said that he was more or less done with corporate cape comics (and to be fair he is still pumping out indy books) but signed on because he was a fan of the other names attached and liked the basic pitch.

Basically I doubt Brubaker would have actually taken up the ASM gig, or at least as relatively late in his Marvel career as 2012.

knightstorm Since: Feb, 2022
#25772: Feb 12th 2023 at 5:56:48 PM

[up][up][up][up][up]I WISH that Hickman would write the book. He would break it out of it's rut. Assuming he has enough pull to make editorial finally realize what a dead end the OMD/BND status quo is anyway...

Edited by knightstorm on Feb 12th 2023 at 6:01:28 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#25773: Feb 12th 2023 at 6:04:09 PM

It really feels like editorial is what's knee-capping Spider-Man

It's telling that Zdarsky would rather write the main Batman title than Spider-Man because of how restrictive the latter is

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
knightstorm Since: Feb, 2022
#25774: Feb 12th 2023 at 6:26:43 PM

Yep. The current run stinks...but it's what editorial wants...so this is probably as good as we can expect until a massive shift occurs at the top. The book is now completely off brand...since the much more popular movies and games have an adult Peter with MJ. If any good can come of Wells's run...it would be if it drives off enough readers to force the higher ups to tell editorial to get the books in line with the rest of the Spider-Man media.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#25775: Feb 12th 2023 at 6:35:17 PM

I'm currently more invested in Norman's attempt at a redemption arc than I am in Peter's romantic woes. Never thought I'd say that but I really am enjoying Gold Goblin even though I just KNOW it'll end with Norman becoming evil but I really can't help but empathize with Norman with how Cantwell writes him. It helps that Norman actually is getting punished for his sins and being forced to feel guilt so there's an interesting premise there IMO.

I have talked to another troper who likes the run, and I'll take their word for it. But I'll wait until the run is complete before giving it a shot.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Feb 12th 2023 at 9:37:00 AM

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